<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Thanks Peter — Billy — maybe a slightly shorter version removing the ‘indication of’?</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div class="" style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;"><div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">[Note: The example above is representative of a <b class="">historical</b> use of filesystem<b class="">::</b>u8path. <b class="">Passing a std::u8string is preferred for a UTF-8 encoding more consistent with path’s handling of other encodings.</b> -- end note.]</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 8, 2019, at 2:01 AM, Billy O'Neal (VC LIBS) <<a href="mailto:bion@microsoft.com" class="">bion@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Ah, thank you<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI Emoji", sans-serif;" class="">😊</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; width: 688.9375px;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peter Brett <<a href="mailto:pbrett@cadence.com" class="">pbrett@cadence.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 8, 2019 9:01:27 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Billy O'Neal (VC LIBS) <<a href="mailto:bion@microsoft.com" class="">bion@microsoft.com</a>>; Jeff Garland <<a href="mailto:jeff@crystalclearsoftware.com" class="">jeff@crystalclearsoftware.com</a>>; SG16 <<a href="mailto:unicode@open-std.org" class="">unicode@open-std.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: New P/R for LWG 3328</font><div class=""> </div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="x_WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sorry, my bad – s/Jeff/Billy/ in my e-mail. I meant that I was happy with the changed wording to address LWG concerns.</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> Peter</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Billy O'Neal (VC LIBS) <<a href="mailto:bion@microsoft.com" class="">bion@microsoft.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>08 November 2019 09:00<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peter Brett <<a href="mailto:pbrett@cadence.com" class="">pbrett@cadence.com</a>>; Jeff Garland <<a href="mailto:jeff@crystalclearsoftware.com" class="">jeff@crystalclearsoftware.com</a>>; SG16 <<a href="mailto:unicode@open-std.org" class="">unicode@open-std.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: New P/R for LWG 3328</span></div></div></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="color: red;" class="">EXTERNAL MAIL</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">That might be the case, but LWG wanted changes before they were willing to merge it, hence my message.</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Billy3</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></p><div class="x_MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""><hr size="3" width="98%" align="center" class=""></span></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peter Brett <<a href="mailto:pbrett@cadence.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">pbrett@cadence.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 8, 2019 8:57:31 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Billy O'Neal (VC LIBS) <<a href="mailto:bion@microsoft.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">bion@microsoft.com</a>>; Jeff Garland <<a href="mailto:jeff@crystalclearsoftware.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeff@crystalclearsoftware.com</a>>; SG16 <<a href="mailto:unicode@open-std.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">unicode@open-std.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: New P/R for LWG 3328</span><span lang="EN-US" class=""></span></div><div class=""><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi all,</div><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I think Jeff’s proposed wording adequately resolves the NB comment.</div><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> Peter</div><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:unicode-bounces@open-std.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">unicode-bounces@open-std.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:unicode-bounces@open-std.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">unicode-bounces@open-std.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Billy O'Neal (VC LIBS)<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>08 November 2019 08:56<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Garland <<a href="mailto:jeff@crystalclearsoftware.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeff@crystalclearsoftware.com</a>>; SG16 <<a href="mailto:unicode@open-std.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">unicode@open-std.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[SG16-Unicode] New P/R for LWG 3328</span></div></div></div><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div class=""><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="color: red;" class="">EXTERNAL MAIL</span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Hello Jeff and SG16.</span></div><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">In LWG today there were 4 concerns raised:</span></div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;" class=""><li class="x_xmsolistparagraph" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Historic => historical</span></li><li class="x_xmsolistparagraph" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Missing :: in the u8path reference</span></li><li class="x_xmsolistparagraph" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">ISO rules forbid ‘should’ in notes.</span></li><li class="x_xmsolistparagraph" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">The ‘should in new code’ form is somewhat ‘preachy’ and we should say why.</span></li></ol><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">To those ends, how about this:</span></div><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">[Note: The example above is representative of a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">historical</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>use of filesystem<b class="">::</b>u8path.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Passing a std::u8string to path’s constructor is preferred for an indication of UTF-8 encoding more consistent with path’s handling of other encodings.</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-- end note.]</span></div><p class="x_xmsonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Billy3</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>