Consistency for size() functions: Add ranges::ssize

Document #: P1970R2
Date: 2020-02-14
Project: Programming Language C++
Library Working Group
Reply-to: Hannes Hauswedell
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Jorg Brown
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Casey Carter
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1 History

1.1 R2

Removal of wording and integration of wording fixes based on new discussion point and removal of changes to std::size / std::ssize. New discussion points have been added as point 6.0.4 under “Discussion (after R0)”.

While I think that this paper is important and should make it into C++20, the urgency and implications for breakage are significantly reduced by the new wording, because the behaviours of std::size() and std::ssize() are now unaffected.

1.2 R1

Clean-up of wording and integration of wording fixes based on new discussion points. The paper body is unchanged, but new discussion points have been added as “Discussion (after R0)”.

It is my understanding that these changes are in LWG’s realm, but I will double-check with LEWG-chair to see if he wants to see this again.

While I think that this paper is important and should make it into C++20, the urgency and implications for breakage are significantly reduced by the new wording, because the behaviour of std::size() and std::ssize() is largely preserved for arguments that are not sized_ranges.

1.3 R0

Created during Belfast (Fall 2019) in response to DE269.

2 Introduction

C++17 introduced std::size() and C++20 will introduce std::ssize() and std::ranges::size(). Why do we need three and do they solve all problems in regard to size? After DE269 raised these questions, LEWG requested I write this paper.

3 Motivation and Scope

.size()
.size() or end() - begin()
unsigned † std::size() std::ranges::size()
signed std::ssize() none

This can be signed under certain circumstances, but is not for any types in the standard library. Criticism of this was raised in LEWG, but this is independent of everything else and not touched by this paper to reduce last-minute impact.

std::ranges::size() was introduced (also) because it was desired that subtractable iterator-sentinel-pairs should be sufficient for a range to qualify it as a std::ranges::sized_range. This means std::size() will not work on certain sized ranges, but std::ranges::size() will.

std::ssize() has been introduced (with some controversy), because there was the desire to have a signed size type that can be used (among other things) in loops and comparisons with signed counter variables. It is defined as std::size() but casts the type to a comparable signed type. This solves the problem but only works on the subset of sized ranges that std::size() works on.

3.1 There is no ssize that works for all ranges

The first problem and original intent of DE269 is that there is no signed size function that works on all sized ranges, i.e. if the arguments for adding std::ssize() are valid, they imply that we also need std::ranges::ssize() with the semantics of std::ranges::size() and a cast to a signed type.

The current state is inconsistent in regard to signed vs unsigned (inside std::ranges::).

Solution: add std::ranges::ssize()

3.2 std::[s]size should behave as std::ranges::[s]size

During discussion in LEWG it was criticised that we have different semantics in the different namespaces at all, i.e. that the current state is inconsistent in regard to std:: vs std::ranges::. Because the types that std::size() applies to is a subset of the types that std::ranges::size() applies to, it was proposed to make them behave the same or even just have two functions instead of three or four.

It also became evident that this subsumption is only true now (before C++20), because, after C++20, ranges can opt-out of std::ranges::size() via disable_sized_range – but not out of std::size(). Thus any fix in this area must happen now.

The most obvious solution would be to have std::size() behave like std::ranges::size(), remove the latter, and have std::ssize() refer to std::size(). This is not possible, however, because std::ranges::size() is a function object and std::size() is a function that is subject to ADL. Replacing the function with a function object will break code that relied on ADL.

The next suggested solution was to define std::size() and std::ssize() as functions that call their counterparts in std::ranges::. This guarantees that if we must have more than two interfaces, at least we only have two different semantics clearly denoted by name (signed vs unsigned). Unfortunately, during discussion in LWG, it was discovered that std::ranges::size sometimes calls std::size, and LWG attendees could find no way to avoid this circularity.

With the deadline for C++20 fast approaching, changes to std::size() and std::ssize() were abandoned.

4 Impact on the standard

See above why these changes would be breaking after C++20.

See below for wording.

5 Design decisions

This is the current proposal:

Add std::ranges::ssize(), a signed version of std::ranges::size(), in the same way that std::ssize() is a signed version of std::size(). Don’t touch std::size() and std::ssize().

This was the previous proposal:

.size() or end() - begin()
unsigned std::size(), std::ranges::size()
signed std::ssize(), std::ranges::ssize()

The discussion in LEWG also proposed the following other “solutions”:

  1. Replace std::[s]size with std::ranges::[s]size. This doesn’t work because of function VS function object, see above.

  2. Only add std::ranges::ssize(), don’t touch std::size() and std::ssize(). Less invasive, but only fixes the first inconsistency.

  3. Don’t add std::ranges::ssize() and remove std::ssize(). This creates some consistency with regard to the absence of any signed size function. It doesn’t solve the second inconsistency above.

  4. Don’t add std::ranges::ssize(), but re-define std::ssize() in terms of std::ranges::size() instead of std::size. It solves the problem of a lacking ssize for all ranges. However, it increases inconsistency within std::. And it does not solve the second inconsistency.

6 Discussion (after R0)

6.0.1 Why not remove std::ranges::size() and give std::[s]size() the same semantics (but keeping them as functions and not making function objects)?

Possible, but ranges authors want size functions to be function objects. The change would also be quite invasive – because std::ranges::size() appears frequently. It’s too late to detect subtle breakage at this point.

6.0.2 std::size(r) is not a subset of std::ranges::size(r) right now, because the latter only considers r.size() if that returns something integer-like and the former has no such restrictions.

While I consider it very unlikely that code returns something not integer-like via .size() and also depends on exposing it via std::size() (especially since that was just introduced in C++17), changing this would break currently valid C++17 code. As such, I have changed the wording to maintain the current behaviour of std::size() and delegate to std::ranges::size() only for those arguments that are sized_ranges (which is most of the arguments likely used). std::ssize() is adapted in a similar way so that it can potentially work on types that are not sized_ranges but that std::size() works on.

This change means that adopting this paper after C++20 would still be possible and only “breaking” in the sense that std::ssize() on a sized_range could possibly return a different type in C++23 than it does in C++20.

6.0.3 std::ranges::ssize() does not work on those sized_ranges that have non-std::integral size type.

The reason is that static_cast<common_type_t<ptrdiff_t, make_signed_t<decltype(E)>>> is used to transform the type to signed type and this is not guaranteed to be valid for arbitrary integer-like types (that are allowed for sized_ranges; in particular iota_view). This shortcoming of R0 was known to the author and discussed briefly in LEWG. It was found that since this shortcoming is already part of the design of the original std::ssize() and can be fixed after C++20, it would not be addressed now.

Casey Carter expressed dissatisfaction with this approach and proposed various resolutions – one of which I have integrated in the current wording. Note that this affects the semantics of std::ranges::ssize() and std::ssize() for sized_ranges; but not std::ssize’s fallback solution described above.

6.0.4 std::size() cannot rely on std::ranged::size() because sometimes std::ranges::size may use std::size() due to ADL.

Due to possible constraint recursion the behaviour of std::size and std::ssize is no longer changed with this paper. This means certain sized_ranges are not covered by std::size and std::ssize. This may still be changed after C++20 as such a change would not be breaking.

7 Wording

$24.2 [range.syn]

Introduce new customization point object

$24.3 [range.access]

Introduce new §24.3.10 [range.prim.ssize] after §24.3.9 [range.prim.size]