Doc No:   SC22/WG21/N2454
                                                  J16/07-0324
                                        Date:     2007-10-15
                                        Project:  JTC1.22.32
                                        Reply to: Robert Klarer
                                                  IBM Canada, Ltd.
                                                  klarer@ca.ibm.com

Minutes of ISO WG21 Meeting, October 1, 2007

1. Opening and introductions

1.1 Welcome from host

Tom Plum, speaking on behalf of Plum Hall, discussed arrangements for this meeting.

1.2 Roll call of technical experts

1.3 Adopt agenda

The agenda is document J16/07-0234 = WG21/N2416.

Agenda adopted by unanimous consent.

1.4 Select drafting committee.

Adamczyk, Dos Reis, and Hinnant were named to the drafting committee.

1.5 Approve minutes from last meeting

The minutes from the last meeting are recorded in document J16/07-0216 = WG21/N2356.

Approved by unanimous consent.

1.6 Review action items from previous meeting

None.

2. Status, liaison, and action item reports

2.1 Small group status reports

deferred to Monday session.

2.2 Liaison Reports

2.2.1 SC22 report

Benito reports:

• SC22 has put two TRs, 24737 and 29117 (i.e. "TR2" and "modules") on as preliminary items, so WG21 has about a year to decide what to do about them.
• the Secretariat has asked WG convenors not to initiate New Work Items until they are ready to work on them.
• 14882:2003 is up for 5 year periodic review next year.
• Document WG21/N4278, the C++/POSIX Liaison statement was not discussed formally at the SC22 plenary meeting, but it was discussed informally, and the sense of all the discussions was that liaison was happening between the groups.
• There is a new SC22 chair, pending confirmation: Rex Jaeschke.

Sutter reported that the New Work Item on special math has succeeded, and noted that a couple of countries voted no, as there was concern that there should be no secondary C++ standard of any kind.

Dos Reis reported that France would like to see this work included in the C++ standard, not a separate standard.

Hedquist explained that this Work Item if for a binding to C++ Dos Reis replied that the same thing could be said about iostreams.

Meredith indicated that there was concern on the UK panel about the selection of functions.

2.2.2 SC22/WG14 (C) report

deferred to Monday session.

2.2.3 POSIX report

deferred to Monday session.

2.2.4 Vulnerabilities OWG report

deferred to Monday session.

3. New Business

3.1 Defect Report procedures

deferred to Monday session.

3.2 Library TR status and planning

deferred to Monday session.

4. Review and approve resolutions and issues

5. Closing process

5.1 Establish next agenda

5.2 Future meetings

Sutter asked whether any member wished to speak in favor of continuing to hold Sunday night meetings.

Stroustrup emphasized the importance of the separate WG21 meeting, observing that Sunday night meetings might not always be as short as they have tended to be in the recent past.

Sutter decided to make no change to the current practice of holding Sunday night meetings.

1. Feb 2008, Bellvue WA.
2. 2008-06-08 to 2008-06-13, Sofia Antipolis, France
3. September or November 2008, Mountain View CA (adjacent to WG14)

5.3 Future mailings

deferred to Friday session.

5.4 Review action items

5.5 Any other Business

None.

5.6 Thanks to host

See Friday session.

5.7 Recess