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From: psmith@mozart.convex.com (Presley Smith)
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On Fri, 20 Mar 92 11:23:12 -0600 psmith@com.convex.mozart said:

>There's nothing wrong with the US procedures.  They work with all the
>other committees.   X3J3 needs to work within those procedures to get
>the job done in a more efficient manner.
>
>Thanks for the comments Lawrie.  This allows us to get the fact out
>we really did and how "terrible" it was...
>
>FYI.  Presley

>The claim that J3 is, has been the only X3 committee with which the
>ISO WGs have had problems is simply untrue. There have been problems with
>most of the important X3Jx committees in recent years. C was a a source
>of much international unhappiness for many similar reasons, al beit not
>so vocal as Fortran. The PL/1 saga was not pretty. Lisp is currently
>distinctly unhappy. COBOL appears to be on a reasonably smooth path.
>I think there is sufficient disquiet in the international arena about
>the attitude and procedures of X3 to suggest that X3 might just look at
>why it is viewed so negatively in the rest of the world.

My statement was probably not clear.  What I should have said is that
all the other X3Jx committees seem to get along better with X3 than X3J3
did.  I was a member of X3 for 5 years and am still friends with various
members of X3.  In private chats with them over the issues between X3
and X3J3, ALL of them have said that no other committee has the problem
with relationships with X3 that the X3J3 committee has had. 

I am certainly not knowledgable of issues that WGs may have had with other
X3Jx committees.  I speak only from the X3/X3J3 relationship.  

FYI. Presley