From JLS@liverpool.ac.uk Tue Mar 24 14:29:06 1992 Received: from danpost2.uni-c.dk by dkuug.dk via EUnet with SMTP (5.64+/8+bit/IDA-1.2.8) id AA12367; Tue, 24 Mar 92 14:29:06 +0100 Received: from vm.uni-c.dk by danpost2.uni-c.dk (5.65/1.34) id AA14381; Tue, 24 Mar 92 13:27:53 GMT Message-Id: <9203241327.AA14381@danpost2.uni-c.dk> Received: from vm.uni-c.dk by vm.uni-c.dk (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 9482; Tue, 24 Mar 92 14:29:29 DNT Received: from UKACRL.BITNET by vm.uni-c.dk (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 4109; Tue, 24 Mar 92 14:29:27 DNT Received: from RL.IB by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 8544; Tue, 24 Mar 92 13:27:32 GMT Received: from RL.IB by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3269; Tue, 24 Mar 92 13:27:16 GMT Via: UK.AC.LIV.IBM; 24 MAR 92 13:27:03 GMT Received: from JLS@UK.AC.LIVERPOOL by MAILER(4.2.a); 24 Mar 1992 13:25:21 GMT Date: Tue, 24 Mar 92 13:11:02 GMT From: Lawrie Schonfelder Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.84) Re: Procedures comment by Psmith To: psmith@mozart.convex.com, SC22/WG5 members In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 20 Mar 92 11:23:12 -0600 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 On Fri, 20 Mar 92 11:23:12 -0600 psmith@com.convex.mozart said: >There's nothing wrong with the US procedures. They work with all the >other committees. X3J3 needs to work within those procedures to get >the job done in a more efficient manner. > >Thanks for the comments Lawrie. This allows us to get the fact out >we really did and how "terrible" it was... > >FYI. Presley The claim that J3 is, has been the only X3 committee with which the ISO WGs have had problems is simply untrue. There have been problems with most of the important X3Jx committees in recent years. C was a a source of much international unhappiness for many similar reasons, al beit not so vocal as Fortran. The PL/1 saga was not pretty. Lisp is currently distinctly unhappy. COBOL appears to be on a reasonably smooth path. I think there is sufficient disquiet in the international arena about the attitude and procedures of X3 to suggest that X3 might just look at why it is viewed so negatively in the rest of the world.