From owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Thu Nov 27 00:06:50 2003 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by dkuug.dk (8.12.10/8.9.2) id hAQN6ow8037411 for sc22wg5-domo; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:06:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk) X-Authentication-Warning: ptah.dkuug.dk: majordom set sender to owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk using -f Received: from book.moene.indiv.nluug.nl (mail.moene.indiv.nluug.nl [195.109.255.217]) by dkuug.dk (8.12.10/8.9.2) with ESMTP id hAQN6REt037394 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:06:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl) Received: from local ([127.0.0.1] helo=moene.indiv.nluug.nl) by book.moene.indiv.nluug.nl with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AP8hp-0005sS-00; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:04:21 +0100 Message-ID: <3FC53147.1050100@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:03:35 +0100 From: Toon Moene Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Maartensdijk, The Netherlands User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux ppc; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020622 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j.k.reid@rl.ac.uk, john.reid9@which.net, sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: WG5 meeting in Netherlands]] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040604050402090608010801" X-Spam-Score: 0 () Sender: owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040604050402090608010801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, Apparently the attached mail didn't reach you - neither at rl.ac.uk or at which.net. Therefore I also forward it to the WG5 mailing list, hoping one out of three will work ! -- Toon Moene - mailto:toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl - phoneto: +31 346 214290 Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands Maintainer, GNU Fortran 77: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/g77_news.html GNU Fortran 95: http://gcc.gnu.org/fortran/ (under construction) --------------040604050402090608010801 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: [Fwd: Re: WG5 meeting in Netherlands]" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re: [Fwd: Re: WG5 meeting in Netherlands]" X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Message-ID: <3F993DB5.9070301@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:56:53 +0200 From: Toon Moene Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Maartensdijk, The Netherlands User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux ppc; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020622 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j.k.reid@rl.ac.uk CC: John Reid Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: WG5 meeting in Netherlands] References: <3F945AC9.2050908@which.net> <3F94F636.1050408@rl.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Reid wrote: >> > Have you thought any more about hosting a WG5 meeting in the >> > Netherlands?> I think you understand our requirements: > > A room for up to 20 people (but might be only about 10) and access to a > printer. > > Simple lunches near the room. > > Reasonable access from hotel to meeting room. > > Variety of restaurants near hotel. > > Hotel not too expensive. > > This can be done within a single hotel, as in Vegas, or by using > institutional facilities with a walk (Dresden) or bus ride (Oulu, > London). In the past, some WG5 hosts have managed to get sponsorship > from computer firms for part of the costs (e.g. in Dresden for the > outing), but this is not a requirement - we can skip the outing or have > the delegates pay for themselves. We normally do not have a meeting fee > but we could. I have phoned two hotels that my employer uses for international visitors and that have meeting room facilities. The results are not very encouraging (price-wise). Hotel Mitland, which is on the outskirts of Utrecht, offers the following: Meeting room for up to 20 people: E 37.50 per person per day. Rooms: E 100 per day (2003 prices). The manager indicated that for a week an arrangement could come out cheaper, but he couldn't name specific prices for 2005. Hotel Best Western Amrath, which is right in the center of Utrecht: Meeting room for up to 35 people (don't have smaller) plus room rate: E 190 per person per day (2004 prices). Obviously, I have never done this :-( I didn't know the prices in Las Vegas were so competitive ... It's clear that this is so expensive because we need a meeting room; if I could convince my employer to offer us the meeting facilities, things would be simpler, because KNMI is reachable quite well from the city of Utrecht (20 minutes by bus). However, unless we meet in the middle of the summer vacation period, claiming one of the meeting rooms for a whole week (even as far in advance as we are) will be challenging ... Let me know if you want me to pursue that option. Cheers, -- Toon Moene - mailto:toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl - phoneto: +31 346 214290 Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands Maintainer, GNU Fortran 77: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/g77_news.html GNU Fortran 95: http://gcc.gnu.org/fortran/ (under construction) --------------040604050402090608010801--