From owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Fri Sep 5 19:11:31 2003 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by dkuug.dk (8.12.8p1/8.9.2) id h85HBVa5031847 for sc22wg5-domo; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:11:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk) X-Authentication-Warning: ptah.dkuug.dk: majordom set sender to owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk using -f Received: from mail1.cray.com (mail1.cray.com [136.162.0.111]) by dkuug.dk (8.12.8p1/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h85HBMCp031840 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:11:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from longb@cray.com) Received: from relayb.mw.cray.com (relayb.us.cray.com [192.168.252.110]) by mail1.cray.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/gw-1.2) with ESMTP id h85HBM4G025904; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:11:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from saffron.us.cray.com (saffron.mw.cray.com [172.31.27.14]) by relayb.mw.cray.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/hub-1.2) with ESMTP id h85HBKc5020953; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:11:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cray.com (cf-vpn-192-168-239-75 [192.168.239.75]) by saffron.us.cray.com (8.8.8/Cray-server-1.6-nhsmod011017) with ESMTP id MAA105989; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F58C594.8030605@cray.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 12:19:16 -0500 From: Bill Long Reply-To: longb@cray.com Organization: Cray Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j.k.reid@rl.ac.uk CC: sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.2977) Paragraph numbers References: <200309041843.h84IhXMm018889@dkuug.dk> <200309051404.h85E4YK7029954@dkuug.dk> In-Reply-To: <200309051404.h85E4YK7029954@dkuug.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cray-VirusStatus: clean Sender: owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Precedence: bulk John Reid wrote: > > My idea is that we should discard the line numbers so that each page > of the published standard is the same as the final draft, apart from > the header and footer. See the C standard for an example of what it > looks like - Van's specimen is not quite right because he includes > line numbers too and does not start the paragraph numbering at 1. > > We would switch from referencing page and line numbers to referencing > clause and paragraph numbers. Not quite so easy to find, but they > suffer less change when a draft standard is edited and would allow > references to the standard to be valid for both the English I'm indifferent about whether the actual ISO publication has paragraph numbers or not. However, I would be very strongly opposed to loosing the line numbers in the final draft. Changes during editing the standard are only part of the overall picture. We are continually using those numbers for several years after the standard is finished, in debating and documenting implementation decisions. In that time frame the line numbers are fixed, and are much more precise and efficient as a means of quoting citations from the standard. If we end up with only paragraph numbers in what we send to ISO, I'd ask that Richard also produce a separate line number version for those of us who need this as a working document. Cheers, Bill -- Bill Long longb@cray.com Fortran Technical Support & voice: 651-605-9024 Bioinformatics Software Development fax: 651-605-9142 Cray Inc., 1340 Mendota Heights Rd., Mendota Heights, MN, 55120