From owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Wed May 28 01:00:02 2003 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by dkuug.dk (8.12.8p1/8.9.2) id h4RN02x4073390 for sc22wg5-domo; Wed, 28 May 2003 01:00:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk) X-Authentication-Warning: ptah.dkuug.dk: majordom set sender to owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk using -f Received: from taka.swcp.com (taka.swcp.com [198.59.115.12]) by dkuug.dk (8.12.8p1/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h4RMxqEc073369 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 00:59:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from walt@fortran.com) Received: from fortran.com ([65.121.119.54]) by taka.swcp.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4RN0rKE039324; Tue, 27 May 2003 17:00:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3ED3EE0D.5010100@fortran.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:00:29 -0700 From: Walt Brainerd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j.k.reid@rl.ac.uk, sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.2729) Name of the language References: <200305022236.h42MaukZ085984@dkuug.dk> <200305221604.h4MG48S1032762@dkuug.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=10.0 tests=REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Sender: owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Precedence: bulk John Reid wrote > Comments, please. Since I was the guy that proposed this before, I guess you all know my opinion, but here is more: I think the important thing is to "get it right", rather than worry about what might confuse some people or worrying about what might happen in 2008. There may be a few articles and references to f2k out there, but I think that is among the knowledgable and they can adjust pretty easily. I think it is very wg5/j3-centered to think that there are very many out there who really know much about the next standard. [I am still making a pretty good living telling people about Fortran 90.] And finally, it is always risky to implement anything (compilers, books, tutorials, etc.) based on what is in a draft standard :-). The following algorithm has determined all of the previous names (some were not official, of course): program fortran_name character(len=8) :: date call date_and_time(date=date) print *, "Official name: ", "Fortran " // date(3:4) print *, "Short name: ", "F" // date(3:4) end program fortran_name To respond to one comment, F03 is just as easy as F2k. I am not sure why we are hung up on having to include the century this time, but I think that is better than using a year in the wrong millenium. I also think Malcolm's suggestion of 2002 is close enough and has some other nice features. -- Walt Brainerd +1-877-355-6640 (voice & fax) The Fortran Company +1-520-760-1397 (outside USA) 6025 N. Wilmot Road walt@fortran.com Tucson, AZ 85750 USA http://www.fortran.com