From owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Wed May 7 01:27:13 2003 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by dkuug.dk (8.12.8p1/8.9.2) id h46NRDMm016040 for sc22wg5-domo; Wed, 7 May 2003 01:27:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk) X-Authentication-Warning: ptah.dkuug.dk: majordom set sender to owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk using -f Received: from mailhub.dfrc.nasa.gov (mailhub.dfrc.nasa.gov [130.134.81.12]) by dkuug.dk (8.12.8p1/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h46NR7Ec016034 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 01:27:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from maine@altair.dfrc.nasa.gov) Received: from mail.dfrc.nasa.gov by mailhub.dfrc.nasa.gov with ESMTP for sc22wg5@dkuug.dk; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:25:43 -0700 Received: from altair.dfrc.nasa.gov ([130.134.20.211]) by mail.dfrc.nasa.gov (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71686U2500L200S0V35) with ESMTP id gov for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:27:55 -0700 Received: from altair.dfrc.nasa.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by altair.dfrc.nasa.gov (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h46NS0Ec031855 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:28:00 -0700 Received: (from maine@localhost) by altair.dfrc.nasa.gov (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h46NS0Ui031851; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:28:00 -0700 From: Richard Maine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <16056.17663.907441.487954@altair.dfrc.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 16:27:59 -0700 To: WG5 Mailing List Subject: (SC22WG5.2718) Keep Environment Procedures as Intrinsics In-Reply-To: <200305062246.h46Mka6s015764@dkuug.dk> References: <200305062246.h46Mka6s015764@dkuug.dk> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 8) "Honest Recruiter" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Precedence: bulk Craig Dedo writes: > The main reason is my philosophy of language design. I believe that it > is better language design to make all Fortran standard procedures > intrinsic unless there is compelling reason to place them into a module. Since that is almost exactly the opposite of my philosophy on that question, I guess it isn't surprising that we come to different conclusions. I seriously doubt that either of us will convince the other on this point, so I won't try, except to note that we appear to disagree on the basic philosophy instead of just on the conclusion. -- Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience; Richard.Maine@nasa.gov | experience comes from bad judgment. | -- Mark Twain