From jwagener@trc.amoco.com Mon Nov 18 19:53:16 1991 Received: from noc.msc.edu by dkuug.dk via EUnet with SMTP (5.64+/8+bit/IDA-1.2.8) id AA14256; Mon, 18 Nov 91 19:53:16 +0100 Received: from uc.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA15344; Mon, 18 Nov 91 12:53:27 -0600 Received: from apctrc.trc.amoco.com by uc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0z(901212)) id AA10447; Mon, 18 Nov 91 12:53:25 -0600 Received: from crmac1 (crmac1.trc.amoco.com) by trc.amoco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06300; Mon, 18 Nov 91 12:53:17 CST Date: Mon, 18 Nov 91 12:53:17 CST Message-Id: <9111181853.AA06300@trc.amoco.com> From: Jerrold L. Wagener To: SC22WG5@dkuug.dk Cc: jwagener@trc.amoco.com Subject: informal report of X3J3 meeting 120 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 informal JLW report of X3J3 meeting 120, Nov 11-15, 1991 -------------------------------------------------------- The three principal objectives of the meeting were to (1) process those requests received so far for interpretation of Fortran 90, (2) develop a response to the Boeing NO vote on the X3 ballot, and (3) determine the US vote on the WG5 ballot regarding moving the varying string proposal to CD status. There were 15 interpretations "2/3 voted" at meeting 119; these were all approved by roll call vote at meeting 120. In addition, 29 more requests for interpretation were processed at meeting 120. Of these 29, 18 were approved by roll call vote, 9 were "2/3 voted", and 2 were voted on but did not receive the necessary 18 affirmative votes to be considered "2/3 voted" (the vote on 120- 88a was 15-2, the vote on 120-95 was 17-0). All 29 will be reaffirmed or reconsidered at meeting 121. There are still two interpretation requests for which no action has been taken. These are 119-49 (assigned to GEN) and 119- 57/120-89 (assigned to PROC); both will be considered at meeting 121. Early in the meeting a motion was passed (17-8) to "have a goal of handling interpretations within one meeting". The committee worked effectively toward this goal during the week, but at the end the general feeling seemed to be that the process was being rushed too much. Therefore the decision was made to reaffirm at the next meeting all interpretation actions initiated at this meeting. In addition, though no formal action was taken on this, an apparent consensus emerged along the lines that only those requests meeting both of the following conditions could be processed at a single meeting: (a) the request appears in the premeeting distribution and the requestor is invited to the meeting (b) a proposed interpretation is distributed (email OK) two weeks before the meeting In all other cases the final role call action on an interpretation should be delayed to the following meeting. It was decided that all requests for interpretation and the disposition of those requests will be recorded in an X3J3 standing document (S20), which will be maintained by Andrew Tait, published in Fortran Forum, and available to all interpretation requestors and others. The response to the Boeing NO vote (120-16b) was approved by a role call vote of 23 yes, 0 no, and 1 abstention (Philips). The US TAG voted 15-0-1 that the US vote NO on the N743 (varying string module) CD ballot. A list of seven specific technical changes are required to change this vote to YES. Generally, these seven involve tightening up the functionality specified by the proposed standard and none involve major changes. A few editorial suggestions are also included. The surprise development of the meeting was the discussion and straw vote (21-0- 1) on Tuesday that a near-term "maintenance" revision of Fortran 90 be produced to incorporate the interpretation actions. On Friday the US TAG adopted a resolution (14-2) that a "maintenance" revision, limited to clarifications, edits, corrections, and the results of interpretations, be published in approximately the 1995 time frame. A companion TAG resolution (9-6) recommended that the development phase of a concurrent evolutionary revision be completed in approximately the 1998 time frame. In the final action of this meeting, X3J3 voted (18-2) to have a letter ballot establishing a treasurer and a meeting fee. This should be done before the next meeting, which is scheduled for May 25-29, 1992, in Terre Haute (Mallory North host). Jerry Wagener 91-11-18