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To: Larry Rolison <lrr@cray.com>
From: Miles Ellis <Miles.Ellis@etrc.ox.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Your request for an informal ballot on N1247
Cc: sc22wg5 <sc22wg5@dkuug.dk>

Larry,

>
>I would also like you to hold an informal letter ballot on N1247.  I
>accept the same deadline date.
>

If you want to hold your own informal ballot, please do so.  However, it
cannot be an "official" informal ballot run by me.

N1243 is a draft CD, produced by the project editor (David Epstein) as a
result of several resolutions by WG5, most recently in Dresden when WG5 for
the third meeting running confirmed its intention to follow the CoCo route
and not the fpp route.

The meeting on Wednesday evening is technically a meeting of the
Conditional Compilation Development Body, and its main task is to determine
what should be done with the current draft (N1243), and to produce draft
resolution(s) on that topic.  The only full committee time that will be
spent on this subject will be during the discussion of these resolutions.
(A similar procedure is being followed for the draft Interoperability
PDTR).  It seems appropriate, therefore, to ensure that as many comments as
possible are brought out before the Wednesday evening meeting in order that
we can avoid unnecessary repetition (and get to bed before dawn ;-)

Your paper is, as I understand it, an alternative proposal to the approach
that WG5 has already approved, and what you hope to do is to persuade WG5
to reverse its earlier decisions and adopt your paper as the draft CD.

When you and I talked about this in Las Vegas last November, and also by
email, I stressed the fact that WG5 had already determined which approach
to follow, but also said that you obviously have the right, as does anyone
else, to attempt to overturn that decision.  I also said that since I
anticipated that the Las Vegas meeting would probably have to decide
whether to forward the draft CD to SC22 for its first ballot, this meeting
was probably the last chance that you, or anyone else, would have to try to
change that direction other than through a country vote during the CD
ballot.

It may well be a good idea for you to solicit input concerning your paper
before the meeting, but I hope you will appreciate that this cannot be in
the form of an "official" informal ballot since, unlike N1243, your paper
is not an "official" draft Standard, produced as a result of due process.

Since you sent your request to the whole WG5 list I thought that I should
copy my reply to the whole list, so that there would be no misunderstanding.

See you in Las Vegas

Miles





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