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From: Brian Lawrence Meek <brian.meek@kcl.ac.uk>
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Subject: "WG5" meetings
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I was at the very first "Fortran experts" meeting in Den 
Haag, as well as the first "real" meeting in London.  It 
was my very first ISO meeting, the one of the famous "Hague 
agreement" of which foundation of the experts groups was a 
part.  I can't recall which day it was, however:  Tuesday 
or Wednesday I think.  I have a feeling there was only one 
session, though there might have been two.

As far as I recall it was arranged because the Cobol folk 
had asked SC5 for an international group to help 
"internationalise" the development of the Cobol standard 
and the Fortran folk said "us too please".  In fact that 
first meeting as far as I remember did discuss whether to 
have a group - a resounding "yes" - and bits about 
possibilities for the first full meeting.  But there was 
also discussion about the need to start immediately on 
another revision (after F77) and what might be in it.

I wonder if we'd have been quite so keen, had we foreseen 
what was to come!

I also sat in on the "Algol experts" meeting - Johan van 
Wingen was there too.  At the same meeting first I (because 
Tony was delayed by storms in the North Sea) and then Tony 
Addyman presented the UK proposal for Pascal.  So one way 
or another it was quite a momentous meeting - though it WAS 
the first SC5 meeting for five years!

Incidentally, a reminder to anyone interested in the 
history of IST/5 that there was my piece in Fortran Forum 
of Oct 1990, "The Fortran (not the Foresight) Saga" which 
gives one person's (biassed and idiosyncratic!) view of 
this period of Fortran history, which does refer to many of 
the meetings Gerhard listed.
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Brian Meek, King's College London Computing Centre
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