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From: Walt.Brainerd@eng.sun.com (Walt Brainerd)
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Subject: Electronic version of F90
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> From: Keld J|rn Simonsen <keld@dkuug.dk>
> To: SC22WG5@dkuug.dk, Walt.Brainerd@Eng
> Subject: Re:  (SC22WG5.5) Electronic versions of Fortran 90

> I would like you to know that similar arrangements are being done for
> distributing POSIX standards, and this is already being done now..

> Keld Simonsen

For the record, it is _not_ possible to obtain machine-readable versions
of POSIX standards.  I just checked to make sure with the IEEE.
They have a project to develop some of their standards in
hypertext form, but nothing is available yet.
They are trying a pilot project to make drafts available in
electronic form to members of the committee working on the draft.
Following is the copyright notice to accompany such a draft.

>                         Copyright (c) 1991 by the
>          Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc.
>                           345 East 47th Street
>                          New York, NY 10017, USA
>                           All rights reserved.
>
> This is an unapproved IEEE Standards Draft, subject to change.
> Permission is hereby granted for IEEE Standards Committee participants to
> reproduce this document for purposes of IEEE standardization activities.
> Permission is also granted for member bodies and technical committees of
> ISO and IEC to reproduce this document for purposes of developing a
> national position.
>
> Permission is also granted to the preceding entities to copy this
> document in an electronic form for the stated activities.  The following
> additional restrictions apply to copying or transmitting the document in
> electronic form:  1) All copies of the electronic document or portions of
> the document must be identified by the document's IEEE project number and
> draft number and must be accompanied by this notice in a prominent
> location.  2) No portion of this document may be redistributed in a
> modified or abridged form without the prior approval of the working group
> chairperson.
>
> Other entities seeking permission to reproduce this document for
> standardization or other activities, or to reproduce portions of this
> document for these or other uses, must contact the IEEE Standards
> Department for the appropriate license.
>
> Use of information contained in this unapproved draft is at your own
> risk.

But we have been doing this for several years (without the copyright notice),
so we are way ahead of them in this matter.  What I am trying to establish
is a procedure to distribute the final standard to anybody who wants it
(probably for a fee).

I got only a very small number of positive comments on my proposal and
no negative ones, so I have sent the letter to ISO and ANSI.  I hope to
see some of you in beautiful downtown Milpitas next week at the X3J3 meeting.
We can discuss this some more then, if anybody wants.