Document ISO/IEC/JTC 1/SC 22/WG 23 N0957

Draft Agenda Meeting #69
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG2

19 May 2020 1500-1600 UTC

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This will be a WebEx meeting, held at 2000-2200 UTC on May 19. The meeting will take the time for the Java and Python vulnerabilities meeting on that dates. We shall use the same Zoom link for this meeting.

Hi,

Stephen Michell is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: WG 23 Meeting 69

(taking the place of Work on TR 24772-4 Python and TR 24772-11 Java)

Time: May 19, 2020 08:00 PM Universal Time UTC

May 19, 2020 08:00 PM

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Agenda

69.1 Opening activities

69.1.1 Opening Comments

69.1.2 Introduction of Participants/Roll Call

69.1.3 Procedures for this Meeting

69.1.4 Approval of previous Minutes of meeting

69.1.5 Review of actions items and resolutions, Action Item and Decision Logs (N/A)

69.1.6 Approval of Agenda

69.1.7 Future Meeting Schedule

69.2 Liaison Activities (for in-person meetings only)

69.2.1 PL22.3/WG5 (Fortran)

69.2.2 WG4 (COBOL)

69.2.3 WG9 (Ada) Erhard Ploedereder

69.2.4 PL22.11/WG14 C Clive Pygott

69.2.5 PL22.16/WG21 (C++) Michael Wong

69.2.6 MISRA C Clive Pygott

69.2.7 MISRA (C++) Clive Pygott

69.2.8 SPARK Erhard Ploedereder

69.2.9 Other Liaison Activities or National body reports

69.3. Transforming TR 24772 (all parts) to International Standards

ISO has crippled the TR documents. The single committee-level ballot with a 50% pass, the refusal to permit more than a single ballot, and the refusal to permit TR's to be freely available documents all show the distain that current ISO management has toward the once-useful document.

The convenor has had repeated discussions with the past ISO Technical Program Manager for JTC 1 about Technical reports. Henry Cucheri has been adamant that international standards do not have to be normative, and the material presented in 24772 (all parts) is important information that justifies having a standard for these documents.

Therefore, the convenor is proposing that we prepare a New Work Item Proposal for SC 22 to make all parts of 24772 iInternational Standards, and include parts 1, 2 and 3 that are slightly reworked to put back some text that was stripped in the editorial phase to satisfy the “TR's cannot say ...” stance taken by ISO CS. The convenor's proposal is that the NWIP ballot be also a CD ballot for those documents.

69.4 Prepare the Convenor's report to SC 22

A draft convenor's report will be developed for the SC 22 plenary.

69. 5 Document Review

There will be no document review as part of this meeting. WG 23 members are meeting separately to develop TR 24772-4 Python, TR 24772-8 Fortran, TR 24772-10 C++, and TR 24772-11 Java

69.6 Review of Assignment of responsibilities

69.7 Resolutions and Action Items

69.8. Adjournment