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Budiardja" , "Brady, Christopher" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005626df0628ee7b5f" Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk --0000000000005626df0628ee7b5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You're welcome, Reuben. Thanks, Chris and Nathan, for your efforts! I hope it works out for the committee to meet in Warwick in 2026. Damian On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 9:06=E2=80=AFAM Reuben D. Budiardja via J3 < j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote: > Hi Chris and Nathan, > > Just wanted to say I appreciate the efforts for you all to try to host > us in 2025. But I guess it's just too short of a notice. Hopefully this > can happen in future WG5 meeting (2026 sounds like a good idea) and > we'll discuss this more. > > Kate and Damian, thanks for stepping up and hosting us in Berkeley for > 2025 WG5. > > Best, > Reuben > > On 12/9/24 12:25, Nathan Sircombe via J3 wrote: > > Hi > > > >>If people would like a non-US host for 2026, I'm happy to say that we > > can do that at Warwick and start planning it now. > > > > Personally, I think that sounds like a good idea under the > > circumstances, I=E2=80=99m a bit biased, but I think Warwick=E2=80=99s= a good venue. > > Planning for them to host in 2026 now makes sure the event can go into > > Warwick Conferences=E2=80=99 busy schedule, and means we=E2=80=99ve jus= t a =E2=80=98blip=E2=80=99 in the > > US / non-US cadence (maybe could consider two non-US meetings, in 2026 > > and 2027, to even up?). > > > > Cheers > > > > Nathan. > > > > *From: *J3 on behalf of Brady, > > Christopher via J3 > > *Date: *Monday, 9 December 2024 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM > > *To: *Steve Lionel , WG5 List < > sc22wg5@open-std.org> > > *Cc: *Brady, Christopher > > *Subject: *[J3] [SC22WG5.6647] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting > > > > I'm afraid that it does look as though sorting out accommodation at thi= s > > notice is being very difficult. In order to give everybody certainty we > > should go back to the plan to host it at LBL. If people would like a > > non-US host for 2026, I'm happy to say that we can do that at Warwick > > and start planning it now. > > > > I really am sorry if this has been a source of trouble for people, > > > > Chris > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > *From:*Steve Lionel > > *Sent:* 09 December 2024 4:47 PM > > *To:* WG5 List ; Brady, Christopher > > > > *Subject:* Re: 2025 WG5/J3 meeting > > > > Damian, Chris is saying that the week of the 23rd DOESN'T work - it doe= s > > work for me. He had earlier suggested the week of June 30, which I can > > also do, but others reasonably noted that this covers a US holiday, > > which may be an issue for some. Unfortunately I have unchangeable > > commitments for the July and August weeks. > > > > I've been trying to pin down arrangements for 2025 since before last > > June's meeting, which makes this all the more frustrating. In the more > > distant past we've arranged WG5 meetings two years in advance, but we > > also had more members offer to host. Six months notice of dates is NOT > > enough for some members, and as we've seen it can be problematic for > > hosts, too. ISO wants us to schedule meetings two years out (which is > > why we have a placeholder for 2026 at present), and I'd like to see if > > we can get back to that. > > > > I think that the availability of lodging is a critical piece of this. > > > > Steve > > > > On 12/9/2024 11:16 AM, Damian Rouson via J3 wrote: > > > > Chris, unless I=E2=80=99m misunderstanding, your response presumes = that the > > week of the 23rd is the only week that works. Steve is the only > > person who has indicated that week doesn=E2=80=99t work. > > > > We=E2=80=99re happy to host at LBL, but I care more about the worki= ngs of > > the committee than I do about where the meeting is held. When you > > have generously research and offered so many options, I don=E2=80= =99t think > > it=E2=80=99s a good idea for the committee to reject all of those o= ptions > > because of one person can=E2=80=99t make it no matter who that pers= on is. I > > might be the most vocal and least shy, but I=E2=80=99m confident th= at I=E2=80=99m > > not alone in this opinion. > > > > Damian > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 08:09 Brady, Christopher > > > wrote: > > > > I should just add that I have asked the conference people at > > Warwick what other (if any) dates in that general time have > > fully booked accommodation but I don't have an answer yet. I > > think that the 23rd being booked is a random unusual event, but > > I can't guarantee yet that somehow they aren't being booked out > > fully six months in advance. I really don't want to back out at > > this point, but unless people are willing to take the risk that > > they'd have to stay in a hotel a bus ride away from the > > university then then it might be better to go back to the LBL > plan. > > > > Chris > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:*Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101) > > > > *Sent:* 09 December 2024 3:06 PM > > *To:* Damian Rouson > > > *Cc:* General J3 interest list > >; WG5 List > > >; Brady, > > Christopher > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [BULK] [J3] [SC22WG5.6639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL= ] > > 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley > > > > Of course =E2=80=93 just meant that it may not be as simple as = naming an > > alternate. > > > > * Tom > > > > *From: *Damian Rouson > > > *Date: *Monday, December 9, 2024 at 10:00=E2=80=AFAM > > *To: *Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101) > > > > *Cc: *General J3 interest list > >, WG5 List > > >, Brady, > > Christopher > > > > *Subject: *Re: [BULK] [J3] [SC22WG5.6639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL= ] > > 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley > > > > If that's the case, then it's a bug in the rules, but we're > > discussing meetings that are more than six months away. I'd be > > surprised if the requisite training couldn't happen between now > > and the meeting > > > > Damian > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 5:58=E2=80=AFAM Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6= 101) > > > > wrote: > > > > While missing Steve=E2=80=99s presence would be unfortunate= in > > itself, it may not be so simple to arrange a proxy. I > > suspect there is some training that ISO expects the convene= r > > to have completed. > > > > =C2=B7Tom > > > > *From: *J3 > > on behalf of > > Damian Rouson via J3 > > > > *Date: *Monday, December 9, 2024 at 8:52=E2=80=AFAM > > *To: *General J3 interest list > > > > *Cc: *Damian Rouson > >, WG5 List > >, Brady, Christopher > > > > > *Subject: *[BULK] [J3] [SC22WG5.6639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL= ] > > 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley > > > > *CAUTION:*This email originated from outside of NASA. > > Please take care when clicking links or opening > > attachments. Use the "Report Message" button to report > > suspicious messages to the NASA SOC. > > > > But there are still all the other weeks. I think we need > > something analogous to a Doodle poll but for weeks instead > > of the usual hourly time slots. My sense is that most weeks > > work for most people. We may need a proxy for the convener, > > but it doesn=E2=80=99t seem fair to turn down all the other= weeks > > because one person can only make it one week out of so many > > options. > > > > Damian > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 03:24 Brady, Christopher via J3 > > > > wrote: > > > > Hello all. I'm very sorry to have to say that after all > > of this back and forth it appears that there has been a > > miscommunication about the availability of the > > accommodation at Warwick for that week. It looks as > > though somehow the night of the 23rd was completely > > booked out in both of the conference centers while I wa= s > > talking to our conferencing teams and now is unavailabl= e. > > > > I'm really sorry to have to do this, after having > > already made so much noise here, but I'm afraid that I'= m > > going to have to say that we can't offer to host it at > > Warwick on the dates that work for people. > > > > I must say that this is very much not my usual > > experience with Warwick conferences who are generally > > excellent, and I can only assume that this was a > > consequence of my trying to get this idea together very > > fast. > > > > Apologies for giving everyone the runaround on this, > > > > Chris > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:*owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org > > > > > > on behalf of Steve > > Lionel > > > > *Sent:* 07 December 2024 5:50 PM > > *To:* WG5 List > >; Brady, Christopher > > >> > > *Subject:* [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6636] [J3] [EXTERNAL] > > 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley > > > > Looking at Google Maps, I don't see any hotels within > > reasonable walking > > distance of the Warwick campus. Have I missed something= ? > > > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ukfortran mailing list -- ukfortran@accu.org > > > > %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the > > contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy > > the information in any medium. Thank you. > > -- > Reuben D. Budiardja, Ph.D. > reubendb@ornl.gov | (865) 576-9519 > National Center for Computational Sciences > Oak Ridge National Laboratory > --0000000000005626df0628ee7b5f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You're welcome, Reuben.

Thanks, Chr= is and Nathan, for your efforts!=C2=A0 I hope it works out for the committe= e to meet in Warwick in 2026.

Damian
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 9:06=E2=80=AFAM Reuben D. Budiardja= via J3 <j3@mailman.j3-fort= ran.org> wrote:
Hi Chris and Nathan,

Just wanted to say I appreciate the efforts for you all to try to host
us in 2025. But I guess it's just too short of a notice. Hopefully this=
can happen in future WG5 meeting (2026 sounds like a good idea) and
we'll discuss this more.

Kate and Damian, thanks for stepping up and hosting us in Berkeley for
2025 WG5.

Best,
Reuben

On 12/9/24 12:25, Nathan Sircombe via J3 wrote:
> Hi
>
>>If people would like a non-US host for 2026, I'm happy to say t= hat we
> can do that at Warwick and start planning it now.
>
> Personally, I think that sounds like a good idea under the
> circumstances, I=E2=80=99m a bit biased, but =C2=A0I think Warwick=E2= =80=99s a good venue.
> Planning for them to host in 2026 now makes sure the event can go into=
> Warwick Conferences=E2=80=99 busy schedule, and means we=E2=80=99ve ju= st a =E2=80=98blip=E2=80=99 in the
> US / non-US cadence (maybe could consider two non-US meetings, in 2026=
> and 2027, to even up?).
>
> Cheers
>
> Nathan.
>
> *From: *J3 <j3-bounces@mailman.j3-fortran.org> on behalf of Brad= y,
> Christopher via J3 <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>
> *Date: *Monday, 9 December 2024 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM
> *To: *Steve Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>, WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>
> *Cc: *Brady, Christopher <C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk>
> *Subject: *[J3] [SC22WG5.6647] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting
>
> I'm afraid that it does look as though sorting out accommodation a= t this
> notice is being very difficult. In order to give everybody certainty w= e
> should=C2=A0go back to the plan to host it at LBL. If people would lik= e a
> non-US host for 2026, I'm happy to say that we can do that at Warw= ick
> and start planning it now.
>
> I really am sorry if this has been a source of trouble for people,
>
> Chris
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --
>
> *From:*Steve Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>
> *Sent:* 09 December 2024 4:47 PM
> *To:* WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>; Brady, Christopher
> <C.S.B= rady@warwick.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: 2025 WG5/J3 meeting
>
> Damian, Chris is saying that the week of the 23rd DOESN'T work - i= t does
> work for me.=C2=A0 He had earlier suggested the week of June 30, which= I can
> also do, but others reasonably noted that this covers a US holiday, > which may be an issue for some. Unfortunately I have unchangeable
> commitments for the July and August weeks.
>
> I've been trying to pin down arrangements for 2025 since before la= st
> June's meeting, which makes this all the more frustrating. In the = more
> distant past we've arranged WG5 meetings two years in advance, but= we
> also had more members offer to host. Six months notice of dates is NOT=
> enough for some members, and as we've seen it can be problematic f= or
> hosts, too. ISO wants us to schedule meetings two years out (which is =
> why we have a placeholder for 2026 at present), and I'd like to se= e if
> we can get back to that.
>
> I think that the availability of lodging is a critical piece of this.<= br> >
> Steve
>
> On 12/9/2024 11:16 AM, Damian Rouson via J3 wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Chris, unless I=E2=80=99m misunderstanding, your re= sponse presumes that the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0week of the 23rd is the only week that works.=C2=A0= Steve is the only
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0person who has indicated that week doesn=E2=80=99t = work.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0We=E2=80=99re happy to host at LBL, but I care more= about the workings of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the committee than I do about where the meeting is = held.=C2=A0 When you
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have generously research and offered so many option= s, I don=E2=80=99t think
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0it=E2=80=99s a good idea for the committee to rejec= t all of those options
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0because of one person can=E2=80=99t make it no matt= er who that person is.=C2=A0 I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0might be the most vocal and least shy, but I=E2=80= =99m confident that I=E2=80=99m
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0not alone in this opinion.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Damian
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 08:09 Brady, Christopher
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk <mailto:C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk>> = wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I should just add that I have asked t= he conference people at
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Warwick what other (if any) dates in = that general time have
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fully booked accommodation but I don&= #39;t have an answer yet. I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0think that the 23rd being booked is a= random unusual event, but
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I can't guarantee yet that someho= w they aren't being booked out
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fully six months in advance. I really= don't want to back out at
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this point, but unless people are wil= ling to take the risk that
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0they'd have to stay in a hotel a = bus ride away from the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0university then then it might be bett= er to go back to the LBL plan.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Chris
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-------------------------------------= -----------------------------------
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*From:*Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101) &= lt;thomas.l.cl= une@nasa.gov
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:thomas.l.clune@nasa.gov>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Sent:* 09 December 2024 3:06 PM
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*To:* Damian Rouson <rouson@lbl.gov <mailto:rouson@lbl.gov>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Cc:* General J3 interest list <j3@mailman.j3-= fortran.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>>;= WG5 List
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<sc22wg5@open-std.org <mailto:sc22wg5@open-std.org>>= ;; Brady,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Christopher <C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk>>
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Subject:* Re: [BULK] [J3] [SC22WG5.6= 639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Of course =E2=80=93 just meant that i= t may not be as simple as naming an
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0alternate.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Tom
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*From: *Damian Rouson <rouson@lbl.gov <mailto:rouson@lbl.gov>><= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Date: *Monday, December 9, 2024 at 1= 0:00=E2=80=AFAM
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*To: *Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101) &l= t;thomas.l.clu= ne@nasa.gov
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:thomas.l.clune@nasa.gov>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Cc: *General J3 interest list <j3@mailman.j3-= fortran.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>>,= WG5 List
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<sc22wg5@open-std.org <mailto:sc22wg5@open-std.org>>= ;, Brady,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Christopher <C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Subject: *Re: [BULK] [J3] [SC22WG5.6= 639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0If that's the case, then it's= a bug in the rules, but we're
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0discussing meetings that are more tha= n six months away.=C2=A0 I'd be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0surprised if the requisite training c= ouldn't happen between now
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and the meeting
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Damian
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 5:58=E2=80=AFA= M Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<thomas.l.clune@nasa.gov <mailto:thomas.l.clune@nasa.g= ov>> wrote:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0While missing Steve=E2= =80=99s presence would be unfortunate in
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0itself, it may not be s= o simple to arrange a proxy.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0suspect there is some t= raining that ISO expects the convener
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to have completed.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=B7Tom
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*From: *J3 <j3-bounces@= mailman.j3-fortran.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:j3-bounces@mailm= an.j3-fortran.org>> on behalf of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Damian Rouson via J3 &l= t;j3@mailman= .j3-fortran.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:j3@mailman.j3-fortran.or= g>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Date: *Monday, Decembe= r 9, 2024 at 8:52=E2=80=AFAM
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*To: *General J3 intere= st list <= j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:j3@mailman.j3-fortran.or= g>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Cc: *Damian Rouson <= ;rouson@lbl.gov
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:rouson@lbl.gov>>, WG5 Lis= t <sc22wg5@ope= n-std.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:sc22wg5@open-std.org>&= gt;, Brady, Christopher
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk <m= ailto:C.S.Brad= y@warwick.ac.uk>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Subject: *[BULK] [J3] = [SC22WG5.6639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02025 WG5/J3 meeting in = Berkeley
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*CAUTION:*This email or= iginated from outside of NASA.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0suspicious messages to = the NASA=C2=A0SOC.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0But there are still all= the other weeks. =C2=A0 I think we need
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0something analogous to = a Doodle poll but for weeks instead
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of the usual hourly tim= e slots. My sense is that most weeks
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0work for most people. W= e may need a proxy for the convener,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0but it doesn=E2=80=99t = seem fair to turn down all the other weeks
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0because one person can = only make it one week out of so many
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0options.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Damian
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at = 03:24 Brady, Christopher via J3
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:j3@mailman.j3-fortran.or= g>> wrote:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hello all= . I'm very sorry to have to say that after all
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of this b= ack and forth it appears that there has been a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0miscommun= ication about the availability of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0accommoda= tion at Warwick for that week. It looks as
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0though so= mehow the night of the 23rd was completely
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0booked ou= t in both of the conference centers while I was
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0talking t= o our conferencing teams and now is unavailable.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm r= eally sorry to have to do this, after having
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0already m= ade so much noise here, but I'm afraid that I'm
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0going to = have to say that we can't offer to host it at
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Warwick o= n the dates that work for people.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I must sa= y that this is very much not my usual
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0experienc= e with Warwick conferences who are generally
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0excellent= , and I can only assume that this was a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0consequen= ce of my trying to get this idea together very
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fast.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Apologies= for giving everyone the runaround on this,
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Chris
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0---------= ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*From:*owner-sc22wg5= @open-std.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailt= o:owner-sc2= 2wg5@open-std.org>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<owner-sc22wg5@op= en-std.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailt= o:owner-sc2= 2wg5@open-std.org>> on behalf of Steve
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Lionel &l= t;steve@stevelio= nel.com
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailt= o:steve@stevelio= nel.com>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Sent:* 0= 7 December 2024 5:50 PM
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*To:* WG5= List <sc22wg5= @open-std.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailt= o:sc22wg5@open-st= d.org>>; Brady, Christopher
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<C.S.Brady@warwick.a= c.uk <mailto:C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Subject:= * [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6636] [J3] [EXTERNAL]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02025 WG5/= J3 meeting in Berkeley
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Looking a= t Google Maps, I don't see any hotels within
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reasonabl= e walking
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0distance = of the Warwick campus. Have I missed something?
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Steve
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_________= ______________________________________
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