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From: Damian Rouson <rouson@lbl.gov>
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 07:00:38 -0800
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Subject: Re: [BULK] [J3] [SC22WG5.6639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL] 2025 WG5/J3
 meeting in Berkeley
To: "Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101)" <thomas.l.clune@nasa.gov>
Cc: General J3 interest list <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>, WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>, 
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If that's the case, then it's a bug in the rules, but we're discussing
meetings that are more than six months away.  I'd be surprised if the
requisite training couldn't happen between now and the meeting

Damian

On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 5:58=E2=80=AFAM Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101) <
thomas.l.clune@nasa.gov> wrote:

> While missing Steve=E2=80=99s presence would be unfortunate in itself, it=
 may not
> be so simple to arrange a proxy.   I suspect there is some training that
> ISO expects the convener to have completed.
>
>
>
>    - Tom
>
>
>
> *From: *J3 <j3-bounces@mailman.j3-fortran.org> on behalf of Damian Rouson
> via J3 <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>
> *Date: *Monday, December 9, 2024 at 8:52=E2=80=AFAM
> *To: *General J3 interest list <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>
> *Cc: *Damian Rouson <rouson@lbl.gov>, WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>,
> Brady, Christopher <C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk>
> *Subject: *[BULK] [J3] [SC22WG5.6639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL] 2025 WG5/J3
> meeting in Berkeley
>
> *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of NASA.  Please take care
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>
> But there are still all the other weeks.   I think we need something
> analogous to a Doodle poll but for weeks instead of the usual hourly time
> slots. My sense is that most weeks work for most people. We may need a
> proxy for the convener, but it doesn=E2=80=99t seem fair to turn down all=
 the other
> weeks because one person can only make it one week out of so many options=
.
>
>
>
> Damian
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 03:24 Brady, Christopher via J3 <
> j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
>
> Hello all. I'm very sorry to have to say that after all of this back and
> forth it appears that there has been a miscommunication about the
> availability of the accommodation at Warwick for that week. It looks as
> though somehow the night of the 23rd was completely booked out in both of
> the conference centers while I was talking to our conferencing teams and
> now is unavailable.
>
>
>
> I'm really sorry to have to do this, after having already made so much
> noise here, but I'm afraid that I'm going to have to say that we can't
> offer to host it at Warwick on the dates that work for people.
>
>
>
> I must say that this is very much not my usual experience with Warwick
> conferences who are generally excellent, and I can only assume that this
> was a consequence of my trying to get this idea together very fast.
>
>
>
> Apologies for giving everyone the runaround on this,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org <owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org> on behalf
> of Steve Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>
> *Sent:* 07 December 2024 5:50 PM
> *To:* WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>; Brady, Christopher <
> C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6636] [J3] [EXTERNAL] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting
> in Berkeley
>
>
>
> Looking at Google Maps, I don't see any hotels within reasonable walking
> distance of the Warwick campus. Have I missed something?
>
> Steve
>
> _______________________________________________
> ukfortran mailing list -- ukfortran@accu.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If that&#39;s the case, then it&#39;s a bug in the rules, =
but we&#39;re discussing meetings that are more than six months away.=C2=A0=
 I&#39;d be surprised if the requisite training couldn&#39;t happen between=
 now and the meeting<div><br></div><div>Damian</div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 5:58=E2=80=AFAM Clune, Thomas L. (GSFC-6101) &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:thomas.l.clune@nasa.gov">thomas.l.clune@nasa.gov</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">While missing Steve=
=E2=80=99s presence would be unfortunate in itself, it may not be so simple=
 to arrange a proxy.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I suspect there is some training that ISO =
expects the convener to have completed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
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n"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Tom<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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left:0.5in">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">J3 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j3-bounces@mailman=
.j3-fortran.org" target=3D"_blank">j3-bounces@mailman.j3-fortran.org</a>&gt=
; on behalf of Damian Rouson via J3 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j3@mailman.j3-for=
tran.org" target=3D"_blank">j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, December 9, 2024 at 8:52</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=E2=80=AF</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>General J3 interest list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j3@mailman.j3-for=
tran.org" target=3D"_blank">j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>Damian Rouson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rouson@lbl.gov" target=3D"_b=
lank">rouson@lbl.gov</a>&gt;, WG5 List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sc22wg5@open-s=
td.org" target=3D"_blank">sc22wg5@open-std.org</a>&gt;, Brady, Christopher =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk" target=3D"_blank">C.S.Brady@=
warwick.ac.uk</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[BULK] [J3] [SC22WG5.6639] [ukfortran] [EXTERNAL] 2025 WG5/=
J3 meeting in Berkeley<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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:12pt">But there are still all the other weeks. =C2=A0 I think we need some=
thing analogous to a Doodle poll but for weeks instead of the usual hourly =
time slots. My sense is that most weeks work
 for most people. We may need a proxy for the convener, but it doesn=E2=80=
=99t seem fair to turn down all the other weeks because one person can only=
 make it one week out of so many options. =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt">On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 03:24 Brady, Christopher via J3 &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org" target=3D"_blank">j3@mailman.j3-fortr=
an.org</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black">Hello all. I&#39;m very sorry to have to say that after =
all of this back and forth it appears that there has been a miscommunicatio=
n about the availability of the accommodation
 at Warwick for that week. It looks as though somehow the night of the 23rd=
 was completely booked out in both of the conference centers while I was ta=
lking to our conferencing teams and now is unavailable.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black">I&#39;m really sorry to have to do this, after having al=
ready made so much noise here, but I&#39;m afraid that I&#39;m going to hav=
e to say that we can&#39;t offer to host it at Warwick
 on the dates that work for people.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black">I must say that this is very much not my usual experienc=
e with Warwick conferences who are generally excellent, and I can only assu=
me that this was a consequence of my
 trying to get this idea together very fast.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black">Apologies for giving everyone the runaround on this,<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;color:black">Chris<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org" target=3D"_blank">owner-sc22w=
g5@open-std.org</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org" targe=
t=3D"_blank">owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Steve Lionel &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:steve@stevelionel.com" target=3D"_blank">steve@steveli=
onel.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 December 2024 5:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WG5 List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sc22wg5@open-std.org" target=3D"_=
blank">sc22wg5@open-std.org</a>&gt;; Brady, Christopher &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk" target=3D"_blank">C.S.Brady@warwick.ac.uk</a>&g=
t;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6636] [J3] [EXTERNAL] 2025 WG5/J3 meet=
ing in Berkeley</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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:11pt;color:black">Looking at Google Maps, I don&#39;t see any hotels withi=
n reasonable walking
<br>
distance of the Warwick campus. Have I missed something?<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
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