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X-OriginatorOrg: arm.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2024 10:49:07.1671 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: f2b3597d-72e7-4cf9-9341-08dd16acc62f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: f34e5979-57d9-4aaa-ad4d-b122a662184d X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalAttributedTenantConnectingIp: TenantId=f34e5979-57d9-4aaa-ad4d-b122a662184d;Ip=[63.35.35.123];Helo=[64aa7808-outbound-1.mta.getcheckrecipient.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: DB1PEPF000509F1.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AS2PR08MB9024 Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk --_000_DBAPR08MB56216247C360BCBB5C441CA9F7322DBAPR08MB5621eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=92m afraid Arm hosting again in 2025 isn=92t possible. Were getting ready= to move into new offices by next autumn (hopefully!). In the meantime the = office is rammed and meeting space heavily oversubscribed (I don=92t think = I could secure the etc. venues space we used for some of the meeting last t= ime - that was a bit of a one off because we got bumped at short notice (an= d that was when we had more spare meeting room capacity!). Cheers Nathan. =97 Nathan John Sircombe Arm ________________________________ From: J3 on behalf of Bill Long via J3 = Sent: Friday, December 6, 2024 11:55:49 PM To: General J3 interest list Cc: Bill Long ; WG5 List ; = c.s.brady@warwick.ac.uk Subject: [J3] [SC22WG5.6629] Fwd: [EXTERNAL] [ukfortran] 2025 WG5/J3 meetin= gin Berkeley I generally agree with those who find fault with a meting that overlaps wit= h July 4. If the meeting ends up in Berkeley. since July 4 is a major holi= day in the US. , i assume there would be issues with the Lab being potentia= lly closed. If we have the meeting in the UK, Manchester (ARM hosting) would be more co= nvenient as several of us already =93know=92 that city from a past meeting = there, I would note that we had a meeting once at a University campus (TU-Dresden = in Germany) and it seemed to go OK. During this year=92s Supercomputing Conference (held in Atlanta) a group of= us over lunch discussed possible alternatives for locations. Based on thre= e criterion (a large enough convention center, lots of hotel rooms, and war= m weather in November - at least predictable) we narrowed the list of two c= andidates; Las Vegas and Honolulu. Both are easy for travel, though Hono= lulu can tend to be a bit expensive. I=92m still not clear on why our June meeting needs to have a J3/INCITS com= ponent as opposed to being fully a WG5 meeting. Cheers, BIll (Writing from Honolulu where the daytime highs are still in the low 80=92s = (F), even in December.) > On Dec 6, 2024, at 9:10 AM, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote: > > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [J3] [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6621] 2025 WG5/J3 = meeting in Berkeley > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:08:44 -0500 > From: Reuben D. Budiardja > To: General J3 interest list > CC: Steve Lionel > > > > Thanks to UK for offering to host us; I'm supportive of preserving US - n= on-US pattern as it would help strengthening engagements from all NBs. > > I'd note that the first week in the list would overlap with a US holiday = (Independence day). > > I have potential conflicts with the late July and early August dates; Als= o early August is back to school for us and I'd very much like to avoid tra= veling. > > Is the earlier week in June that Steve originally proposed for Berkeley (= week of June 23) simply not available? > > Best, > Reuben > > > On 12/5/24 20:44, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote: >> Malcolm alerted me to the fact that this message from Chris Brady didn't= make it to the J3 list. Normally, if a non-member submits to that list, it= is held for moderation, but that did not happen here, so I don't quite kno= w what happened. I don't have Chris Brady's email address, either, so he ca= n't see this reply! (Nathan, please forward!) >> >> Unfortunately, the list of weeks available that Chris offers don't conta= in any I think are workable (at least I can't make any of them). Does anyon= e disagree? >> >> Steve >> >> From: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org On Behalf = Of Brady, Christopher >> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 10:19 PM >> To: Nathan Sircombe ; General J3 interest list = >> Cc: Bill Long ; WG5 List >> Subject: [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6621] [J3] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley >> >> >> >> Hello. As Nathan mentioned on Tuesday, I have been looking at getting th= ings sorted so that we can offer to host it at Warwick University. I've man= aged to get approval for us to host it with a few (I hope minor) caveats if= people are interested. Basically the restrictions are >> >> >> Warwick does have some lovely conference facilities, but on this not= ice, I can't put enough money on the budget for booking them. We'd have to = use rooms in one of the academic departments. I've managed to get "in princ= iple" reservation for up to 4 suitably sized rooms in the brand new, award = winning Faculty of Arts building. All of the rooms have projectors, good ne= twork facilities and built in presenter computers. We can get USB connected= video conferencing gear, so there shouldn't be any problems with video lin= ks, but there isn't a dedicated video conferencing suite. We do have public= wireless internet available to anyone on site. >> >> 2. Because of having to use teaching rooms it would hav= e to be one of the following weeks >> 30th June to 4th July >> 7th July to 11th July >> 28th July to 1st August >> 4th August to 8th August >> 11th August to 15th August >> 18th August to 22nd August >> 25th August to 29th August >> 1st September to 5th September >> 8th September to 12th September >> >> >> >> The two missing weeks in July are graduation, so if they are the only po= ssible dates for people then they are available, but they would need people= to book hotel rooms etc. early because of how busy the campus gets. Given = how things work at Warwick, the week of the 7th July would be simplest, but= if people are interested in this suggestion in general then I could put ou= t a poll for people to select when would be best. It would be best if I boo= ked rooms etc. by early-ish in January, but this isn't a terribly fast time= scale. >> >> >> >> We can provide all of the usual features like coffees, lunches etc. = and we will able to offer a conference dinner included as well. I know that= some people have rules that they have to work within on accepting hospital= ity etc. and we can take payment for the conference dinners separat= ely in these cases. >> >> We can provide rooms in the on campus conference accommodation block= s where we should be able to offer an "internal" discount code that will gi= ve you B&B prices of =A355 for single rooms and =A370 for double/twin rooms= . These are our conference centre rooms, not the student halls and I believ= e that it includes parking costs. We can help people with booking into othe= r hotels if they want and there are several within easy travelling distance= of the university, but we can't block book any of them because our policy = is to only offer off campus accommodation if we can't offer on campus. If p= eople do want to stay off campus then there are good transport links to cam= pus by bus, taxi and car. There is a charge for parking on campus, but it c= an be booked in advance online, or paid on the day by phone or parking app. >> >> 5. While Warwick is a campus university and offers all = of the usual facilities like restaurants, a sports centre and a small super= market, it is also a ten minute bus ride from either Coventry or Kenilworth= , so you are not dependent on the facilities on campus. >> >> >> >> If this is of interest to people, please let me know and I can sort out = about dates and then finalise arrangements. Similarly, if there is anything= that I have missed, please let me know. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Chris Brady >> >> Senior Research Software Engineer >> >> Scientific Computing Research Technology Platform >> >> University of Warwick >> >> CV4 7AL >> >> United Kingdom >> Bill Long billlong@centurylink.net IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, p= lease notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any= other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in = any medium. Thank you. --_000_DBAPR08MB56216247C360BCBB5C441CA9F7322DBAPR08MB5621eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=92m afraid Arm hosting again in 2025 isn=92t possible. W= ere getting ready to move into new offices by next autumn (hopefully!). In = the meantime the office is rammed and meeting space heavily oversubscribed = (I don=92t think I could secure the etc. venues space we used for some of the meeting last time - that was a bit of= a one off because we got bumped at short notice (and that was when we had = more spare meeting room capacity!). 

Cheers
Nathan. 

=97
Nathan John Sircombe
Arm
From: J3 <j3-bounces@mai= lman.j3-fortran.org> on behalf of Bill Long via J3 <j3@mailman.j3-for= tran.org>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2024 11:55:49 PM
To: General J3 interest list <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>
Cc: Bill Long <billlong@centurylink.net>; WG5 List <sc22wg5= @open-std.org>; c.s.brady@warwick.ac.uk <c.s.brady@warwick.ac.uk><= br> Subject: [J3] [SC22WG5.6629] Fwd: [EXTERNAL] [ukfortran] 2025 WG5/J3= meetingin Berkeley
 
I generally agree with those who find fault with a= meting that overlaps with July 4.  If the meeting ends up in Berkeley= . since July 4 is a major holiday in the US. , i assume there would be issu= es with the Lab being potentially closed.

If we have the meeting in the UK, Manchester (ARM hosting) would be more co= nvenient as several of us already =93know=92 that city from a past meeting = there,

I would note that we had a meeting once at a University campus (TU-Dresden = in Germany) and it seemed to go OK.

During this year=92s Supercomputing Conference (held in Atlanta) a group of= us over lunch discussed possible alternatives for locations. Based on thre= e criterion (a large enough convention center, lots of hotel rooms, and war= m weather in November - at least predictable) we narrowed the list of two candidates;  Las Vegas and Honolulu. = ; Both are easy for travel,  though Honolulu can tend to be a bit expe= nsive.

I=92m still not clear on why our June meeting needs to have a J3/INCITS com= ponent as opposed to being fully a WG5 meeting.

Cheers,
BIll

(Writing from Honolulu where the daytime highs are still in the low 80=92s = (F), even in December.)


> On Dec 6, 2024, at 9:10 AM, Steve Lionel via J3 <j3@mailman.j3-fort= ran.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:      Re: [EXTERNAL] [J3] [ukfortran]= [SC22WG5.6621] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:08:44 -0500
> From: Reuben D. Budiardja <reubendb@ornl.gov>
> To:   General J3 interest list <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org= >
> CC:   Steve Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>
>
>
>
> Thanks to UK for offering to host us; I'm supportive of preserving US = - non-US pattern as it would help strengthening engagements from all NBs. >
> I'd note that the first week in the list would overlap with a US holid= ay (Independence day).
>
> I have potential conflicts with the late July and early August dates; = Also early August is back to school for us and I'd very much like to avoid = traveling.
>
> Is the earlier week in June that Steve originally proposed for Berkele= y (week of June 23) simply not available?
>
> Best,
> Reuben
>
>
> On 12/5/24 20:44, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote:
>> Malcolm alerted me to the fact that this message from Chris Brady = didn't make it to the J3 list. Normally, if a non-member submits to that li= st, it is held for moderation, but that did not happen here, so I don't qui= te know what happened. I don't have Chris Brady's email address, either, so he can't see this reply! (Nathan, please= forward!)
>>
>> Unfortunately, the list of weeks available that Chris offers don't= contain any I think are workable (at least I can't make any of them). Does= anyone disagree?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> From: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org <owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org>= ; On Behalf Of Brady, Christopher
>> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 10:19 PM
>> To: Nathan Sircombe <Nathan.Sircombe@arm.com>; General J3 in= terest list <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>
>> Cc: Bill Long <billlong@centurylink.net>; WG5 List <sc22w= g5@open-std.org>
>> Subject: [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6621] [J3] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in Be= rkeley
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello. As Nathan mentioned on Tuesday, I have been looking at gett= ing things sorted so that we can offer to host it at Warwick University. I'= ve managed to get approval for us to host it with a few (I hope minor) cave= ats if people are interested. Basically the restrictions are
>>
>>
>>     Warwick does have some lovely conference f= acilities, but on this notice, I can't put enough money on the budget for b= ooking them. We'd have to use rooms in one of the academic departments. I'v= e managed to get "in principle" reservation for up to 4 suitably sized rooms in the brand new, award winning Faculty of Arts building. All = of the rooms have projectors, good network facilities and built in presente= r computers. We can get USB connected video conferencing gear, so there sho= uldn't be any problems with video links, but there isn't a dedicated video conferencing suite. We do have pu= blic wireless internet available to anyone on site.
>>
>> 2.          &nbs= p;       Because of having to use teaching ro= oms it would have to be one of the following weeks
>> 30th June to 4th July
>> 7th July to 11th July
>> 28th July to 1st August
>> 4th August to 8th August
>> 11th August to 15th August
>> 18th August to 22nd August
>> 25th August to 29th August
>> 1st September to 5th September
>> 8th September to 12th September
>>
>>
>>
>> The two missing weeks in July are graduation, so if they are the o= nly possible dates for people then they are available, but they would need = people to book hotel rooms etc. early because of how busy the campus gets. = Given how things work at Warwick, the week of the 7th July would be simplest, but if people are interested in th= is suggestion in general then I could put out a poll for people to select w= hen would be best. It would be best if I booked rooms etc. by early-ish in = January, but this isn't a terribly fast timescale.
>>
>>
>>
>>     We can provide all of the usual features l= ike coffees, lunches etc. and we will able to offer a conference dinner inc= luded as well. I know that some people have rules that they have to work wi= thin on accepting hospitality etc. and we can     =     take payment for the conference dinners separately in these cases.
>>
>>     We can provide rooms in the on campus conf= erence accommodation blocks where we should be able to offer an "inter= nal" discount code that will give you B&B prices of =A355 for sing= le rooms and =A370 for double/twin rooms. These are our conference centre r= ooms, not the student halls and I believe that it includes parking costs. We can= help people with booking into other hotels if they want and there are seve= ral within easy travelling distance of the university, but we can't block b= ook any of them because our policy is to only offer off campus accommodation if we can't offer on campus. If = people do want to stay off campus then there are good transport links to ca= mpus by bus, taxi and car. There is a charge for parking on campus, but it = can be booked in advance online, or paid on the day by phone or parking app.
>>
>> 5.          &nbs= p;       While Warwick is a campus university= and offers all of the usual facilities like restaurants, a sports centre a= nd a small supermarket, it is also a ten minute bus ride from either Covent= ry or Kenilworth, so you are not dependent on the facilities on campus.
>>
>>
>>
>> If this is of interest to people, please let me know and I can sor= t out about dates and then finalise arrangements. Similarly, if there is an= ything that I have missed, please let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Brady
>>
>> Senior Research Software Engineer
>>
>> Scientific Computing Research Technology Platform
>>
>> University of Warwick
>>
>> CV4 7AL
>>
>> United Kingdom
>>

Bill Long
billlong@centurylink.net


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