From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Sat Dec 7 00:55:54 2024 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id B07C9357007; Sat, 7 Dec 2024 00:55:54 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from tmsmtp03oc.mail2world.com (tmsmtp03oc.mail2world.com [209.67.128.156]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBE5356B63 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2024 00:55:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail pickup service by tmsmtp03oc.mail2world.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:55:50 -0800 auth-sender:billlong@centurylink.net Received: from 98.147.21.124 unverified ([98.147.21.124]) by tmsmtp03oc.mail2world.com with Mail2World SMTP Server; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 15:55:50 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.80.82.1.1\)) Subject: Re: [J3] [SC22WG5.6624] Fwd: [EXTERNAL] [ukfortran] 2025 WG5/J3 meetingin Berkeley From: Bill Long In-Reply-To: <20241206191042.9CFC6357070@www.open-std.org> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:55:49 -1000 Cc: WG5 List , Steve Lionel , c.s.brady@warwick.ac.uk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7DCBAF41-33AD-4C4A-87E1-188DFAD02A3D@centurylink.net> References: <5fceffad-c2da-43b1-ab99-7ac33dae4481@ornl.gov> <20241206191042.9CFC6357070@www.open-std.org> To: General J3 interest list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.80.82.1.1) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A00636E.67538F06.001B,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=mail2world.com; s=dev; c=simple/simple; q=dns/txt; t=1733529350; h=from; bh=xYmNpUVAJ0H3C3aIbYEjYHQBv6iG1eZW3aDKRj5PXFY=; b=UUKKYT+MEMpUai+IT+Fnepv37RXvyyckfSyf3pqHT8UL9MfuVrS1igMlGwbzyiSR3X5YrkMpyhy 4LwlMN68CjAGRW/+NmjIHziZB7cEvb85iR+o5XGjlY7zGNIMqL6Q45qdOOecDOjew/i+YyfyglEqa mfcXjJzkwVGhtX21iKRNYriM/DrDUwqzGCUjFflmHaAFE4kggE/amKrRljyXgYqS+/VcRlnPIu/mx +7WM2BEd7FxJkFu57NVU0Cb4xKxfWYhc06dhjQSEz5xdsI5RwvIK/Bw5BZXWLEHSpYg2Pv7A9e5cY cj0CDLKGb0T5xnkpIrBf/0uNqKJkkpYFO5Cw== X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2024 23:55:50.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[60E5AF50:01DB483A] Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk I generally agree with those who find fault with a meting that overlaps = with July 4. If the meeting ends up in Berkeley. since July 4 is a = major holiday in the US. , i assume there would be issues with the Lab = being potentially closed.=20 If we have the meeting in the UK, Manchester (ARM hosting) would be more = convenient as several of us already =E2=80=9Cknow=E2=80=99 that city = from a past meeting there,=20 I would note that we had a meeting once at a University campus = (TU-Dresden in Germany) and it seemed to go OK.=20 During this year=E2=80=99s Supercomputing Conference (held in Atlanta) a = group of us over lunch discussed possible alternatives for locations. = Based on three criterion (a large enough convention center, lots of = hotel rooms, and warm weather in November - at least predictable) we = narrowed the list of two candidates; Las Vegas and Honolulu. Both are = easy for travel, though Honolulu can tend to be a bit expensive.=20 I=E2=80=99m still not clear on why our June meeting needs to have a = J3/INCITS component as opposed to being fully a WG5 meeting.=20 Cheers, BIll (Writing from Honolulu where the daytime highs are still in the low = 80=E2=80=99s (F), even in December.) > On Dec 6, 2024, at 9:10 AM, Steve Lionel via J3 = wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [J3] [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6621] 2025 = WG5/J3 meeting in Berkeley > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:08:44 -0500 > From: Reuben D. Budiardja > To: General J3 interest list > CC: Steve Lionel >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks to UK for offering to host us; I'm supportive of preserving US = - non-US pattern as it would help strengthening engagements from all = NBs. >=20 > I'd note that the first week in the list would overlap with a US = holiday (Independence day). >=20 > I have potential conflicts with the late July and early August dates; = Also early August is back to school for us and I'd very much like to = avoid traveling. >=20 > Is the earlier week in June that Steve originally proposed for = Berkeley (week of June 23) simply not available? >=20 > Best, > Reuben >=20 >=20 > On 12/5/24 20:44, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote: >> Malcolm alerted me to the fact that this message from Chris Brady = didn't make it to the J3 list. Normally, if a non-member submits to that = list, it is held for moderation, but that did not happen here, so I = don't quite know what happened. I don't have Chris Brady's email = address, either, so he can't see this reply! (Nathan, please forward!) >>=20 >> Unfortunately, the list of weeks available that Chris offers don't = contain any I think are workable (at least I can't make any of them). = Does anyone disagree? >>=20 >> Steve >>=20 >> From: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org On = Behalf Of Brady, Christopher >> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 10:19 PM >> To: Nathan Sircombe ; General J3 interest = list >> Cc: Bill Long ; WG5 List = >> Subject: [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6621] [J3] 2025 WG5/J3 meeting in = Berkeley >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Hello. As Nathan mentioned on Tuesday, I have been looking at getting = things sorted so that we can offer to host it at Warwick University. = I've managed to get approval for us to host it with a few (I hope minor) = caveats if people are interested. Basically the restrictions are >>=20 >>=20 >> Warwick does have some lovely conference facilities, but on this = notice, I can't put enough money on the budget for booking them. We'd = have to use rooms in one of the academic departments. I've managed to = get "in principle" reservation for up to 4 suitably sized rooms in the = brand new, award winning Faculty of Arts building. All of the rooms have = projectors, good network facilities and built in presenter computers. We = can get USB connected video conferencing gear, so there shouldn't be any = problems with video links, but there isn't a dedicated video = conferencing suite. We do have public wireless internet available to = anyone on site. >>=20 >> 2. Because of having to use teaching rooms it would = have to be one of the following weeks >> 30th June to 4th July >> 7th July to 11th July >> 28th July to 1st August >> 4th August to 8th August >> 11th August to 15th August >> 18th August to 22nd August >> 25th August to 29th August >> 1st September to 5th September >> 8th September to 12th September >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> The two missing weeks in July are graduation, so if they are the only = possible dates for people then they are available, but they would need = people to book hotel rooms etc. early because of how busy the campus = gets. Given how things work at Warwick, the week of the 7th July would = be simplest, but if people are interested in this suggestion in general = then I could put out a poll for people to select when would be best. It = would be best if I booked rooms etc. by early-ish in January, but this = isn't a terribly fast timescale. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> We can provide all of the usual features like coffees, lunches = etc. and we will able to offer a conference dinner included as well. I = know that some people have rules that they have to work within on = accepting hospitality etc. and we can take payment for the = conference dinners separately in these cases. >>=20 >> We can provide rooms in the on campus conference accommodation = blocks where we should be able to offer an "internal" discount code that = will give you B&B prices of =C2=A355 for single rooms and =C2=A370 for = double/twin rooms. These are our conference centre rooms, not the = student halls and I believe that it includes parking costs. We can help = people with booking into other hotels if they want and there are several = within easy travelling distance of the university, but we can't block = book any of them because our policy is to only offer off campus = accommodation if we can't offer on campus. If people do want to stay off = campus then there are good transport links to campus by bus, taxi and = car. There is a charge for parking on campus, but it can be booked in = advance online, or paid on the day by phone or parking app. >>=20 >> 5. While Warwick is a campus university and offers = all of the usual facilities like restaurants, a sports centre and a = small supermarket, it is also a ten minute bus ride from either Coventry = or Kenilworth, so you are not dependent on the facilities on campus. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> If this is of interest to people, please let me know and I can sort = out about dates and then finalise arrangements. Similarly, if there is = anything that I have missed, please let me know. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Chris Brady >>=20 >> Senior Research Software Engineer >>=20 >> Scientific Computing Research Technology Platform >>=20 >> University of Warwick >>=20 >> CV4 7AL >>=20 >> United Kingdom >>=20 Bill Long billlong@centurylink.net