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On Tue, 2023-11-21 at 10:11 -0800, Gary Klimowicz via J3 wrote:
> It's about it being in plain text, not in PDF form. As an Annex,
> they're difficult to manipulate textually.
> As plain text, I can image tools we could write for automatically
> generating parser definitions (especially for formal definition tools
> like SDF or Maude). Identifying changes between version would be much
> easier.

That could probably be done from the LaTeX source. Would it be helpful
if Malcolm posted a tarball of it (including the j3 class definition),
if not for every draft, then for every revision and after every
corrigendum?
> On Nov 21, 2023, at 09:54, Long, Bill F <william.long@hpe.com> wrote:
> 
> Such lists would seem more natural in an Annex as part of the
> standard. 

They were at one time an annex, that we decided not to typeset when
everybody was printing a draft to take to meetings. It might be easy to
turn it on again, then use "pdftk" or something like it to separate it
to a different file.



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r;"><div>On Tue, 2023-11-21 at 10:11 -0800, Gary Klimowicz via J3 wrote:</d=
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29fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">It's about it being in plain text, not in PDF=
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v><div>As plain text, I can image tools we could write for automatically ge=
nerating parser definitions (especially for formal definition tools like SD=
F or Maude). Identifying changes between version would be much easier.</div=
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X source. Would it be helpful if Malcolm posted a tarball of it (including =
the j3 class definition), if not for every draft, then for every revision a=
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te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div>On Nov 21, 2023, at 09:54, Long, Bill F &lt;william.long@hpe.com&=
gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset=
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<div>They were at one time an annex, that we decided not to typeset when ev=
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