From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Mon Nov 20 22:02:33 2023 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 3D9E7356BAD; Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:02:33 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-qk1-f177.google.com (mail-qk1-f177.google.com [209.85.222.177]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C740E356B39 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:02:32 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-qk1-f177.google.com with SMTP id af79cd13be357-777754138bdso316640485a.1 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:02:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stevelionel.com; s=google; t=1700514151; x=1701118951; darn=open-std.org; h=in-reply-to:from:to:references:content-language:subject:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=zCFf37lAqiKrqZyCPDqGkgmoN3gSDBy7A82dAV8Pk9Q=; b=CJ7AfFvaTie/58LnNWr/8m+um+d5ZI+brOZoLkd/Vs3QPJlKgL8e+ef1h5HZL5KzfY Clh+KHIb+4wMm6uuQBQTRqDvCicBGpJNYTBYVQJtlF0QXDie/sGGSGJHvl4/aJlfydli Jk/KS3FLZwL31rzMoVmLfCTV/xqxXv/cBt2w8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1700514151; x=1701118951; h=in-reply-to:from:to:references:content-language:subject:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zCFf37lAqiKrqZyCPDqGkgmoN3gSDBy7A82dAV8Pk9Q=; b=YJZUhM1lOOZoauIbzUKEs8cu6Xvg8i9DHNw+5JrmLXPXRPMIwT3V2Gsq1ynQkcgQg3 9IOovlOlBUSbDyigEJD4Rci5MmBrYh16mN5TSp0Ue8v+RieZZjW8VRH6zM++32tTBsOy MDEgoUQwMx3uXGy2RjS/XRdMbiK4XHIaOdjnoOGXMSEojFaPvHxEqITA1LLsT6EyyrBh ZcDPBJH/f7MlouJjSpp2G1ML4ogFVILdwv7lL6dHj1TfCIx8K3lLwusjZ7oq4eTB9kQA PIIznodzjuHJUiirIZa+u2Y9bkDB2F3GihTlEXkhdqsPTK3R7WHEb/wEOg1dKti59x1g bLzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyTin5ikRZvq1UC0Z4Q/rUogjIAczLelWQUF40RU7lTGbnZ0cIS TCLP6Go+zCwLIScZUNhnaS+rnZxxiHthtwaUIzg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGdSxxHeHUAPN7pPe6MlmPU5zSf6FMzLMnJ5L3DjHZPtuFVQnpwBmIqT25E71nMlcvAXYL6hA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:f2e:b0:677:fba2:21e2 with SMTP id iw14-20020a0562140f2e00b00677fba221e2mr11794519qvb.65.1700514151126; Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.203] ([216.212.3.233]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bp14-20020a05620a458e00b0077263636a95sm2963671qkb.93.2023.11.20.13.02.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:02:30 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------H6MWYvQhvqu8HvDucIfCOf4i" Message-ID: <721d4b19-91fd-4b06-b4f3-4bf2aba31c5a@stevelionel.com> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:02:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Fwd: [SC 22 Convenors] JTC 1 plenary wrap-up - Electronic attachments to standard Content-Language: en-US References: <88db4232-2af2-47a2-9a28-f999095078f3@dmk.com> To: WG5 List From: Steve Lionel X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett In-Reply-To: <88db4232-2af2-47a2-9a28-f999095078f3@dmk.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <88db4232-2af2-47a2-9a28-f999095078f3@dmk.com> Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------H6MWYvQhvqu8HvDucIfCOf4i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting concept - I wonder if there's anything we can do with it. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [SC 22 Convenors] JTC 1 plenary wrap-up Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:45:33 -0800 From: David Keaton To: Dear SC 22 Convenors, There is one item I forgot to mention from last week's JTC 1 plenary meeting. ISO and IEC have approved the concept of "electronic attachments" to standards. These have several interesting properties. * Electronic attachments are distributed together with the standard, so anyone who buys the standard has the attachments. * An electronic attachment can contain any kind of data, such as a machine-readable grammar for a programming language, a sample computer program, pictures, databases, or even text. Text attachments might include such things as a list of identifiers, a cross-reference list, or a change history of the standard. ISO and IEC do not need to know how to process the attachments; they are only for use by the customers of the standard. * Customers are charged by the page of the standard. Electronic attachments are not counted; they are included for free. Consequently, some items that might otherwise have resulted in large annexes could instead be submitted as electronic attachments, giving customers access to the same data for less money. Electronic attachments create some pretty exciting possibilities, and I hope you will keep them in mind during standards development. David --------------H6MWYvQhvqu8HvDucIfCOf4i Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Interesting concept - I wonder if there's anything we can do with it.

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Subject: Re: [SC 22 Convenors] JTC 1 plenary wrap-up
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:45:33 -0800
From: David Keaton <dmk@dmk.com>
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Dear SC 22 Convenors,

There is one item I forgot to mention from last week's JTC 1 plenary meeting. ISO and IEC have approved the concept of "electronic attachments" to standards. These have several interesting properties.

* Electronic attachments are distributed together with the standard, so anyone who buys the standard has the attachments.

* An electronic attachment can contain any kind of data, such as a machine-readable grammar for a programming language, a sample computer program, pictures, databases, or even text. Text attachments might include such things as a list of identifiers, a cross-reference list, or a change history of the standard. ISO and IEC do not need to know how to process the attachments; they are only for use by the customers of the standard.

* Customers are charged by the page of the standard. Electronic attachments are not counted; they are included for free. Consequently, some items that might otherwise have resulted in large annexes could instead be submitted as electronic attachments, giving customers access to the same data for less money.

Electronic attachments create some pretty exciting possibilities, and I hope you will keep them in mind during standards development.

David
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