From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Wed Aug 9 01:24:16 2023 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id BB7C6359261; Wed, 9 Aug 2023 01:24:16 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-qt1-f180.google.com (mail-qt1-f180.google.com [209.85.160.180]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A3B3591F0 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2023 01:24:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f180.google.com with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-4055bc3cdd8so46867001cf.1 for ; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 16:24:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stevelionel.com; s=google; t=1691537055; x=1692141855; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=YyEMOUdWWe8ZMazI+SVMVDCrOJOGTri6MT56bOut6Rs=; b=vVtYoSgXrOg9kYMfGbbnNK6qwOcndoFLc6LO3RxQPvCYcMoNbejUZguwd5CaLYsz0K jQoxFeo1uy60HblSL0igboriW6jLfoWxfyW0AvF19dcsfHQf/4633ycjZ66GIDjhd6fI kZGISjEu8BH/jVYpMh7Z9JvRs1bzxp/BYwqbo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691537055; x=1692141855; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=YyEMOUdWWe8ZMazI+SVMVDCrOJOGTri6MT56bOut6Rs=; b=lLPnUCC5ZmnCgZ23aqeA/eOF/oLoyA1NRVy+4bT2r2d8H/cSbamqQabKQbWUZftvOw TVVoBzp0aPCxKgzV0gBeJpvwa65sUIc/m9I+jtd0itr9Am7vFdYGg7InTxhA2so0kpPD 9dT1HjFhHFgofN3FL4QWNzvctt+kyYPEgEOMgTyOvlA1/0sYkeD69kQJ0KKJa+Lfo1W4 RBzCZrmx4v1uF0Hi+x1rddDcLqSYa5WT1EYFBRWCxBn7yV936ar21PPik3kLnBAnOKkl hK75HGRtvqHDHyZNlB3kv86kMVuQTSNr5zoJzSoJTCrwYQFRCe/OZMncZHVBLK/M67Pu gGmQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz93fkKtf7DVM97i+FjKrY0HMuUoi9opXEJePnbErNGw7dQm2cT vIibtNHwUkB3gyVK5UcZ9N7q05y2FNYGn/QToZbUdQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE0Z7ydKHTCCyeh/gY44bzzcxwzn3bqg3EGMqkOFYIV//PtBLg9Ja5xltQ3TFAVu3R/XYYl8w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:13d3:b0:403:e7e4:d631 with SMTP id p19-20020a05622a13d300b00403e7e4d631mr1665260qtk.50.1691537055025; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 16:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.203] ([216.212.3.233]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h22-20020a05620a13f600b00767b7375eadsm3626431qkl.39.2023.08.08.16.24.14 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Aug 2023 16:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3d568661-2e13-c2df-3150-a1d62a5206ca@stevelionel.com> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 19:24:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.14.0 Subject: Re: [J3] [SC22WG5.6471] Ballot has started! Content-Language: en-US To: WG5 List References: <20230808141637.4E98535922A@www.open-std.org> <631fc2859190e7feea5dff0f731ec8a6af113d23.camel@sbcglobal.net> From: Steve Lionel X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett In-Reply-To: <631fc2859190e7feea5dff0f731ec8a6af113d23.camel@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk On 8/8/2023 7:18 PM, Van Snyder via J3 wrote: > > Every Ada standard has always had paragraph numbers. Do they have a > blanket exemption, or do they have to beg permission every time too? > All the previous Fortran standards have had paragraph numbers as well. This is a recent (this year) pronouncement from ISO, so, yes, absent any change in the rules, Ada would need to request permission to include paragraph numbers. More, I was told earlier that ISO might grant paragraph numbers for a DIS, but not for the published standard. I think that many of the ISO editorial rules (some not written down) were developed with the notion that ISO standards are relatively small, which of course is not the case for programming languages. Steve