From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Sun Jul 16 13:47:49 2023 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id DE9319DB18C; Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:47:49 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org X-Greylist: delayed 1095 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at www5.open-std.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:47:49 CEST Received: from mx1.mythic-beasts.com (mx1.mythic-beasts.com [46.235.224.141]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9513591EA for ; Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:47:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mailhub-cam-d.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qKzwS-00ABNv-Or; Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:29:32 +0100 From: To: "'Long, Bill F'" , "'WG5 List'" , "'General J3 interest list'" Cc: "'Steve Lionel'" References: <20230715175421.8326B359235@www.open-std.org> <20230716044908.34D5E3591EA@www.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20230716044908.34D5E3591EA@www.open-std.org> Subject: RE: [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6464] [J3] This might almost be funny... Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:29:28 +0100 Message-ID: <001001d9b7d8$caeed910$60cc8b30$@chiversandbryan.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01D9B7E1.2CB5B210" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQKKPnt9tmtTcyTPZ4hLEfqX8PFQ1ADaXLharlRa28A= Content-Language: en-gb X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01D9B7E1.2CB5B210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to locate a font table for aptos, but Have drawn a blank. I found this https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/office-theme-e7bbfe02-d1fb-4c4d-b 3b7-6a47f0cefd3f If I find one I'll post a link. Ian From: Long, Bill F Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 5:49 AM To: WG5 List ; General J3 interest list Cc: Steve Lionel Subject: [ukfortran] [SC22WG5.6464] [J3] This might almost be funny... Hi Steve, Interesting history and link for Aptos. The obvious general question is why is Microsoft relevant to anything. More specifically, does the font distinguish among the number 1, the letter lower case L, and the letter uppercase I? Cheers, Bill _____ From: J3 > on behalf of Steve Lionel via J3 > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2023 12:54 PM To: WG5 List > Cc: Steve Lionel > Subject: [J3] [SC22WG5.6463] This might almost be funny... As most of you know, one of the things that held up ISO processing of F2023 (still in "processing" as I write this, balloting not yet started ) was ISO's insistence that the standard use 11-point Callibri font. Callibri has been around for 15 years, having been introduced with Office 2007. We got an exemption for this time, promising to switch to Callibri for the next revision. Recently, Microsoft announced that it was retiring Callibri, replacing it with a typeface (a font is a specific size of typeface) called Aptos. (It had been called Bierstadt earlier.) It would not astonish me if, by the time we're ready to submit F202Y, that ISO will have switched to requiring use of Aptos. Meet Microsoft Office 's new default font: Aptos - The Verge Steve ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01D9B7E1.2CB5B210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I tried to locate a font table for = aptos, but

Have drawn a = blank.

 

I found = this

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/o= ffice-theme-e7bbfe02-d1fb-4c4d-b3b7-6a47f0cefd3f

 

If I find = one I’ll post a link.

 

Ian

 

From: Long, Bill F = <william.long@hpe.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 5:49 = AM
To: WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>; General J3 = interest list <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>
Cc: Steve = Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>
Subject: [ukfortran] = [SC22WG5.6464] [J3] This might almost be = funny...

 

Hi = Steve,

 

=

Interesting history and link for = Aptos.  The obvious general question is why is Microsoft relevant = to anything.   More specifically, does the font distinguish = among the number 1, the letter lower case L, and the letter uppercase = I? 

 

=

Cheers,

Bill

 

=

From: J3 <j3-bounces@mailman.j3-f= ortran.org> on behalf of Steve Lionel = via J3 <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2023 = 12:54 PM
To: WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>
Cc: Steve Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>
Subject: [J3] [SC22WG5.6463] This = might almost be funny...

 

As most of = you know, one of the things that held up ISO processing of F2023 (still = in "processing" as I write this, balloting not yet started ) = was ISO's insistence that the standard use 11-point Callibri font. = Callibri has been around for 15 years, having been introduced with = Office 2007. We got an exemption for this time, promising to switch to = Callibri for the next revision.

Recently, Microsoft = announced that it was retiring Callibri, replacing it with a typeface (a = font is a specific size of typeface) called Aptos. (It had been called = Bierstadt earlier.) It would not astonish me if, by the time we're ready = to submit F202Y, that ISO will have switched to requiring use of Aptos. =

Meet Microsoft Office’s new default font: = Aptos - The = Verge

Steve

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