From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Fri Feb 3 19:04:25 2023 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 1EACF358FEF; Fri, 3 Feb 2023 19:04:25 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-qt1-f182.google.com (mail-qt1-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93AC358FA0 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2023 19:04:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-qt1-f182.google.com with SMTP id cr22so6369277qtb.10 for ; Fri, 03 Feb 2023 10:04:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stevelionel.com; s=google; h=in-reply-to:from:references:to:content-language:subject:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=G3pEJlOuPsgpc0kTpAc6pq+i5htKCo0rPhZvUZIA9pE=; b=JhJIpFdUjVnj1fyZ5Rqy8VnKRr9usIY/MaazI6qaL8qCydrjdUbOxe0G3o1QK0uo7m tP1KVkpvanAKd3IJoIFNx02UlBLzpQG6JuC4evw3L7NnxidJEYAjKNexNX+KfO1/nIQw I+XrBMD/azlItZ2ZnzI5pO2GdKa9ud1p+xn0s= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=in-reply-to:from:references:to:content-language:subject:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=G3pEJlOuPsgpc0kTpAc6pq+i5htKCo0rPhZvUZIA9pE=; b=whGsQNlda8qGviXG9iEPHgtqRW6/Wj8TBVwXiFfV1CXNZCFoZx9psm+sT1KlDSjF0+ zfxNtBOCAw8U38uwIRztWZLAPi0koG2B+NH22AI8qYSHe9KIBisGwS+npo/8TrcGtpHL yf7kOL4PRotiLABmjN3xYvFEQSI5+m9qA4IGNFsUHQHmeqvUIVaAPMVwm8DqXqyZx7C/ 92nnyVrGe9PF88ip3HhuAHb6mZanAbfNo0pY3BbAfoEuapWOLTxDDPzS3sosRhFRE2gI lJ3ONDfQEou/Ls+Af2sTZtkje0O9vV3eCOU3HVIyxymcY16PV/cmJJDuL59//5I2x/j8 ExPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXRZz+vup9rPupXwW8EQ7oLptU/d7/YLQpLe1+G3SIyOZui+mmK ssySo9bgZIR2mnbX3bzGWZlNui/6Pztd3WjnPw8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9PA606TD5kAqRP3NbssXcfPzmxxoYuiuGk6N1v454/JRhAxibJHYZpiczYFZ/Yx4/Liooxgg== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5c94:0:b0:3b8:6a3b:3bfc with SMTP id r20-20020ac85c94000000b003b86a3b3bfcmr21995486qta.24.1675447463034; Fri, 03 Feb 2023 10:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPV6:2606:4700:110:8231:faba:1326:adc3:a5f9? ([2a09:bac1:7680:1410::6a:3d]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g25-20020ac870d9000000b003a7e38055c9sm1944886qtp.63.2023.02.03.10.04.22 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Feb 2023 10:04:22 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------T3TqiQea0yf8bzGt8IEobOYp" Message-ID: <2ce9a622-a09d-d5ae-01c7-9d3ea96bfabd@stevelionel.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 13:04:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:110.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/110.0 Subject: Re: [J3] [SC22WG5.6423] F2023 DIS ballot results and comments Content-Language: en-US To: WG5 List References: <20230201152213.D1BFB358FD7@www.open-std.org> From: Steve Lionel In-Reply-To: <20230201152213.D1BFB358FD7@www.open-std.org> Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------T3TqiQea0yf8bzGt8IEobOYp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2/1/2023 10:22 AM, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote: > On a related note, many of you are aware that, in the past, ISO has > asked us to remove line numbers from the final document submitted. Now > they are saying that while they would prefer neither paragraph nor > line numbers, we can use either or both if we want - we just have to > get SC22 to request permission to do so and SC22 has said we can do > whatever we think best here and they'll handle the paperwork. > This turned out to be a misunderstanding - ISO's relaxing of the rules does not apply to the FDIS, only the DIS (which is done.) So for the FDIS, no paragraph nor line numbers (same as we did for F2018.) We'll revisit the issue when F202Y goes to DIS. David Keaton (SC22) has made me aware that the C++ standard does publish with paragraph numbers, but they have to fight for it each time. I don't think we need to do this now. Steve --------------T3TqiQea0yf8bzGt8IEobOYp Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On 2/1/2023 10:22 AM, Steve Lionel via J3 wrote:

On a related note, many of you are aware that, in the past, ISO has asked us to remove line numbers from the final document submitted. Now they are saying that while they would prefer neither paragraph nor line numbers, we can use either or both if we want - we just have to get SC22 to request permission to do so and SC22 has said we can do whatever we think best here and they'll handle the paperwork.

This turned out to be a misunderstanding - ISO's relaxing of the rules does not apply to the FDIS, only the DIS (which is done.) So for the FDIS, no paragraph nor line numbers (same as we did for F2018.) We'll revisit the issue when F202Y goes to DIS. David Keaton (SC22) has made me aware that the C++ standard does publish with paragraph numbers, but they have to fight for it each time. I don't think we need to do this now.

Steve

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