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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steve, Are comments like "you used the wrong font" fodder for papers sent to \Edit= , perhaps papers written by Malcolm? Regarding line numbers, I do find them very useful in the Interp document (= which we use internally as the standard for compiler development). For the= ISO-published version, I'm OK with omitting the line numbers. However, par= agraph numbers are useful, particularly for very long subclauses with many = paragraphs. As the paragraph numbers are not affected by translation into n= on-English languages, I would prefer to keep the paragraph numbers. They h= elp with the specificity of comments by readers of the ISO versions, especi= ally comments that are directed to J3. Cheers, Bill ________________________________ From: J3 on behalf of Steve Lionel via = J3 Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 9:22 AM To: WG5 List Cc: Steve Lionel Subject: [J3] [SC22WG5.6423] F2023 DIS ballot results and comments Hello all! The ballot for the F2023 DIS has ended, with 12 out of 12 P-members voting = approval. There are numerous comments, the majority of them editorial or mi= nor technical; some of these already have J3 papers about them. You can fin= d the collated comments at 23-112.pdf (j3-fortran.org) We will need papers at J3 m229 addressing the comments, though I don't thin= k we need them for things such as "you used the wrong font". It would be gr= eat if subgroup heads would coordinate responses and get papers written bef= ore the meeting, especially as it's a short week. What we often do is have = one paper per subgroup that covers multiple comments related to that subgro= up. I think this will be a straightforward task, as many of the comments ha= ve already been discussed and have suggested edits. On a related note, many of you are aware that, in the past, ISO has asked u= s to remove line numbers from the final document submitted. Now they are sa= ying that while they would prefer neither paragraph nor line numbers, we ca= n use either or both if we want - we just have to get SC22 to request permi= ssion to do so and SC22 has said we can do whatever we think best here and = they'll handle the paperwork. The argument against line numbers is that, especially when the document is = translated, they can change. Paragraph numbers don't change within a revisi= on, but do between revisions (though ISO seems to think otherwise.) Note th= at whatever decision we make here, it does not affect the J3 "Interpretatio= n document" which will have both paragraph and line numbers. Does anyone ha= ve strong opinions about whether we should put line numbers back in the off= icial standard? I'd like to keep the paragraph numbers and don't care about= line numbers. Malcolm says it's a one or two line change in his macros. If= you have comments on this, please respond to the WG5 list - those on the J= 3 list should not just reply to the email. Thanks again for all your efforts - we're almost there! Steve --_000_MW4PR84MB18513F8F91B3DB295327B5CE97D19MW4PR84MB1851NAMP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Steve,

Are comments like "you used the wrong font" fodder for papers sen= t to \Edit, perhaps papers written by Malcolm?

Regarding line numbers, I do find them very useful in the Interp document (= which we use internally as the standard for compiler development).  Fo= r the ISO-published version, I'm OK with omitting the line numbers. However= , paragraph numbers are useful, particularly for very long subclauses with many paragraphs. As the paragraph numbers ar= e not affected by translation into non-English languages, I would prefer to= keep the paragraph numbers.  They help with the specificity of commen= ts by readers of the ISO versions, especially comments that are directed to J3. 

Cheers,
Bill

From: J3 <j3-bounces@mai= lman.j3-fortran.org> on behalf of Steve Lionel via J3 <j3@mailman.j3-= fortran.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 9:22 AM
To: WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>
Cc: Steve Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>
Subject: [J3] [SC22WG5.6423] F2023 DIS ballot results and comments
 

Hello all!

The ballot for the F2023 DIS has ended, with 12 out of 12 P-members voti= ng approval. There are numerous comments, the majority of them editorial or= minor technical; some of these already have J3 papers about them. You can = find the collated comments at 23-112.pdf (j3-fo= rtran.org)

We will need papers at J3 m229 addressing the comments, though I don't t= hink we need them for things such as "you used the wrong font". I= t would be great if subgroup heads would coordinate responses and get paper= s written before the meeting, especially as it's a short week. What we often do is have one paper per subgroup that co= vers multiple comments related to that subgroup. I think this will be a str= aightforward task, as many of the comments have already been discussed and = have suggested edits.

On a related note, many of you are aware that, in the past, ISO has aske= d us to remove line numbers from the final document submitted. Now they are= saying that while they would prefer neither paragraph nor line numbers, we= can use either or both if we want - we just have to get SC22 to request permission to do so and SC22 has sai= d we can do whatever we think best here and they'll handle the paperwork.

The argument against line numbers is that, especially when the document = is translated, they can change. Paragraph numbers don't change within a rev= ision, but do between revisions (though ISO seems to think otherwise.) Note= that whatever decision we make here, it does not affect the J3 "Interpretation document" which = will have both paragraph and line numbers. Does anyone have strong opinions= about whether we should put line numbers back in the official standard? I'= d like to keep the paragraph numbers and don't care about line numbers. Malcolm says it's a one or two line change in his= macros. If you have comments on this, please respond to the WG5 list - tho= se on the J3 list should not just reply to the email.

Thanks again for all your efforts - we're almost there!

Steve

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