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I have written a short proposal for item 1 here: https://github.com/j3-fort=
ran/fortran_proposals/issues/270.

I have no idea what I=92m doing w.r.t. procedures for changing Fortran so p=
lease let me know if I should do something differently.

Jeff

From: Jeff Hammond <jehammond@nvidia.com>
Date: Friday, 13May 2022 at 4:40 PM
To: General J3 interest list <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>, WG5 List <sc22wg5=
@open-std.org>
Cc: Steve Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>
Subject: Re: [J3] [SC22WG5.6371] Kickstarting proposals for F202Y features
My desired features for 2Y are:

  1.  fetch-and-op atomics in DO CONCURRENT
  2.  asynchronous blocks / tasks (equivalent to OpenACC async and OpenMP n=
on-dependent tasks)
  3.  scan / prefix sum (LBNL has a paper on this in preparation)

I am working on the papers for the first two of these for Boulder.

Jeff

From: J3 <j3-bounces@mailman.j3-fortran.org> on behalf of Steve Lionel via =
J3 <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org>
Date: Saturday, 23April 2022 at 11:27 PM
To: WG5 List <sc22wg5@open-std.org>
Cc: Steve Lionel <steve@stevelionel.com>
Subject: [J3] [SC22WG5.6371] Kickstarting proposals for F202Y features
External email: Use caution opening links or attachments

Back in 2019, Ondrej, Zach and Gary started a "Fortran Proposals" Github re=
pository (https://github.com/j3-fortran/fortran_proposals<https://nam11.saf=
elinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fj3-fortran%=
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OKzz6HkbRURc0rbmZSk%3D&reserved=3D0>), which I envisioned as serving as an =
"incubator" for features that might be considered in future revisions. A fe=
w months ago I asked Ondrej to compile a list, organized by clause, of the =
entries submitted to date, and this is now available. Some of these are det=
ailed with lots of discussion and some are more abstract concepts. Quite a =
few of these have been proposed and declined for earlier revisions, but it'=
s always worth taking a second look. Some are already in F2023.

Please look over the list (https://gitlab.com/fortran-lang/github_stats/-/w=
ikis/j3-04232022<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp=
s%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.com%2Ffortran-lang%2Fgithub_stats%2F-%2Fwikis%2Fj3-0423202=
2&data=3D05%7C01%7Cjehammond%40nvidia.com%7C644327dbf76e4bfb68a508da2567bad=
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3D&reserved=3D0>) and click through for details on proposals that catch you=
r eye. I'd also encourage additional comments on proposals if you have them=
.

I'd like to do at the July meeting what we did for F202x (coincidentally, a=
lso in Boulder) - have each attendee (including virtual) come up with a lis=
t of five features you'd like considered. These can come from the Github li=
st, your own concepts, or anywhere else. Subgroups will then offer opinions=
 on each and rank them.

This is just the start of the process, but we will have the advantage of ma=
ny of the ideas already being discussed and evaluated. I also need to go th=
rough the papers list and make sure we include features that were marked "d=
eferred" or "out-of-order". I expect that other ideas will come in over the=
 next year. Of course, Generics will be a big part of this.

Thanks for all your hard work to get us to the endgame of F2023, despite th=
e setbacks of a global pandemic. I'm proud of what we have accomplished.

Steve

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">I have written a sh=
ort proposal for item 1 here:
<a href=3D"https://github.com/j3-fortran/fortran_proposals/issues/270">http=
s://github.com/j3-fortran/fortran_proposals/issues/270</a>.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">I have no idea what=
 I=92m doing w.r.t. procedures for changing Fortran so please let me know i=
f I should do something differently.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Jeff<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jeff Hammond &lt;je=
hammond@nvidia.com&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 13May 2022 at 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>General J3 interest list &lt;j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org&gt;, WG5 =
List &lt;sc22wg5@open-std.org&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>Steve Lionel &lt;steve@stevelionel.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [J3] [SC22WG5.6371] Kickstarting proposals for F202Y fe=
atures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">My desired features=
 for 2Y are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm" start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">fetch-and-op atomics in DO CONCURREN=
T<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left=
:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">asynchronous=
 blocks / tasks (equivalent to OpenACC async and OpenMP non-dependent tasks=
)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left=
:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">scan / prefi=
x sum (LBNL has a paper on this in preparation)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">I am working on the=
 papers for the first two of these for Boulder.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Jeff<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">J3 &lt;j3-bounces@m=
ailman.j3-fortran.org&gt; on behalf of Steve Lionel via J3 &lt;j3@mailman.j=
3-fortran.org&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, 23April 2022 at 11:27 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>WG5 List &lt;sc22wg5@open-std.org&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>Steve Lionel &lt;steve@stevelionel.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[J3] [SC22WG5.6371] Kickstarting proposals for F202Y featur=
es</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">External email: Use caution opening l=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Back in 2019, Ondre=
j, Zach and Gary started a &quot;Fortran Proposals&quot; Github repository =
(<a href=3D"https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%=
2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fj3-fortran%2Ffortran_proposals&amp;data=3D05%7C01%7Cjeham=
mond%40nvidia.com%7C644327dbf76e4bfb68a508da2567bad9%7C43083d15727340c1b7db=
39efd9ccc17a%7C0%7C0%7C637863424695331564%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM=
C4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&a=
mp;sdata=3DjeODRuoc%2Fuov1Fnx4oQYFqbkOKzz6HkbRURc0rbmZSk%3D&amp;reserved=3D=
0">https://github.com/j3-fortran/fortran_proposals</a>),
 which I envisioned as serving as an &quot;incubator&quot; for features tha=
t might be considered in future revisions. A few months ago I asked Ondrej =
to compile a list, organized by clause, of the entries submitted to date, a=
nd this is now available. Some of these are
 detailed with lots of discussion and some are more abstract concepts. Quit=
e a few of these have been proposed and declined for earlier revisions, but=
 it's always worth taking a second look. Some are already in F2023.<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Please look over th=
e list (<a href=3D"https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dht=
tps%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.com%2Ffortran-lang%2Fgithub_stats%2F-%2Fwikis%2Fj3-04232=
022&amp;data=3D05%7C01%7Cjehammond%40nvidia.com%7C644327dbf76e4bfb68a508da2=
567bad9%7C43083d15727340c1b7db39efd9ccc17a%7C0%7C0%7C637863424695331564%7CU=
nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLC=
JXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=3DdmWTUM410WY5A7eXRkPCunqbMtgFp0RsbL=
xeB3LMi98%3D&amp;reserved=3D0">https://gitlab.com/fortran-lang/github_stats=
/-/wikis/j3-04232022</a>)
 and click through for details on proposals that catch your eye. I'd also e=
ncourage additional comments on proposals if you have them.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">I'd like to do at t=
he July meeting what we did for F202x (coincidentally, also in Boulder) - h=
ave each attendee (including virtual) come up with a list of five features =
you'd like considered. These can come
 from the Github list, your own concepts, or anywhere else. Subgroups will =
then offer opinions on each and rank them.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">This is just the st=
art of the process, but we will have the advantage of many of the ideas alr=
eady being discussed and evaluated. I also need to go through the papers li=
st and make sure we include features
 that were marked &quot;deferred&quot; or &quot;out-of-order&quot;. I expec=
t that other ideas will come in over the next year. Of course, Generics wil=
l be a big part of this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Thanks for all your=
 hard work to get us to the endgame of F2023, despite the setbacks of a glo=
bal pandemic. I'm proud of what we have accomplished.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Steve<o:p></o:p></s=
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