From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Fri Aug 7 20:23:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 11DD6358294; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:23:10 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-qk1-f180.google.com (mail-qk1-f180.google.com [209.85.222.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6001357140 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:23:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id p25so2585076qkp.2 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 11:23:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stevelionel.com; s=google; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=qCxZ/3Z6vFQu0ytvgAzmclWgdqePkzqTA/0T9R9mZGo=; b=IquqG6DItdrbeWaGZ6zVnI1EuEy/3ovgruq+uCnt0r48FYYvdtT2kWoqY6dCTtzVxp 5Ea0+GxZCcZzTPmL8r18fN2rUUB7iffKoI9IJ8vrUWhB4WSWjyueKMxIR3AIap/yMdLq m+0yVnHqBfHIowZX3iESEkgDsqQNMSAwR7SJA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=qCxZ/3Z6vFQu0ytvgAzmclWgdqePkzqTA/0T9R9mZGo=; b=NOW9z3nV26AQlpQsW9EZSCamdIW3EAeEpSKRizpjcGZxGzhRw8xyBlWa776ymwdD3c q1AfP4OBROcz2810+y1XAuEBAKuxQdPlmeEeMZCDUcr7q9dRHgcVdU6k8KpwdFyXKnFd UXXbPXDOJq/s5ZCSiWmJNKd93oHHb0k5jwihW1G1NJrMdsJDr4Fvrea4I2cGRrESPlTj gmS9INDJxXNLSzzeqKd0mBgVjPtdkYTPqfKw2ALt4NYur8d2H8Ntg/hzVe4dUOs203Qm vgpwuD8ClAyN8cDKbE0e/cuvzz0lbSW6jpCVRinaF+ABxGwUjYI1x0hvNyBtnmbM7+aF Udag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533WQdMWDCSvX2+qfvEWDqg5LVKTZOV5b7Z/UxZsZhlak9I4ywpm fHtgd6b4pgwBHpoipqD9ye1y9mUEGM0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJykuQ3XrPkcJQMR+r1xp+KdSnlXNKisUSbo53y43zutJKyXczFL5izy7hHR+U97jra/D3ueWQ== X-Received: by 2002:a37:ad07:: with SMTP id f7mr14879786qkm.228.1596824587566; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.255.115.200]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s30sm8306028qtc.87.2020.08.07.11.23.06 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Aug 2020 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT) To: WG5 List From: Steve Lionel Subject: Concerns for WG meetings in 2021 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <4024dba5-d9e8-9236-2f83-cc0f188e9490@stevelionel.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 14:23:04 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk This is just a heads-up - nothing we need to do quite yet... At last week's INCITS PL22 meeting there was extensive discussion about the way ISO is specifying that WG and SC meetings should not be held physically due to the pandemic. What ISO does is restrict physical meetings for the next three months, and then each month extends the window another month. This means that WGs can't plan meetings in as far advance as they normally would, often involving commitments to venues and financial penalties. PL22, the US National Body for SC22, wants to ask ISO to specify a longer window for "no physical meetings", but the deadline for adding agenda items for the upcoming SC22 meeting (August 31/September 1) has passed. However... If a WG noted in their report to SC22 that the pandemic poses a schedule risk due to virtual meetings, an NB is allowed to submit a "contribution" connected to such a WG concern - and I did this for WG5 (as did WG21).  So PL22 has tacked onto our annual reports a request that ISO broaden this window to at least March 2021, allowing WGs to plan better. I have my fingers crossed that by June 2021, when WG5 is scheduled to meet in the UK, we'll be able to do so. But given how the US has handled things so far, I am not making any bets. Steve