From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Tue Jun 23 16:09:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 0CF1D3587DD; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:09:28 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-qk1-f170.google.com (mail-qk1-f170.google.com [209.85.222.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD7735705B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:09:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f170.google.com with SMTP id j80so7570605qke.0 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 07:09:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stevelionel.com; s=google; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=c0q8q/bl6WmaVR2C0VVi2ucQoVtItf+LM+YCa5ifRMQ=; b=uy1g3ubSOzj6C4bmV9YW/Xtg1R5Rahy25bdwLTsfjaCuYBPkb9b0qpBpNuPhbkaOKh Allxo4BzAKK5p3iXtMCofMRbg/Q2XE0kqFcGW3qkRPUiuajJ68qVWA4QnIG7O1gkX79e PjsMxnMATrMTYKaV6Fvu93cjsFJxYrXYku3AU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=c0q8q/bl6WmaVR2C0VVi2ucQoVtItf+LM+YCa5ifRMQ=; b=EVCa/gxvnwaVwnV84uUwPQNXIbSrAsN+Jkm1+6XQiDgLUQAAtjImcPqY1YAxTKiToh iVPTviAte7/Lwmflz5OXsCmucNMsGLHEPAuwNeckv00A4WsPqGyRvrhTmswGsgKWw+X4 S6uQU3lQTvaD5ReEKkNtlL5NJjGHqzGk5Ae47qcmMyF8FsseSng1F2bVfTZtXLdkillJ eKSDPh21GjUwkkXiAiRhdvCLtzF3IqXaxITr7Dna81OLg1PxNvAmoDorfjso+xMW4C/J bTjZxspexLQibCHG5WhMy2wPM1XgCkh3KDc4bVCgl8cNvUOhJb408mySEGx+Uw1GaNUl KFRA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532gVXbbAjlKDEVClA6YmnKTgKy0sV+6n2aqRd5aNp8Czoo69mI5 XZzXRGe/XAeCNX6BOq5CaPK+TNlpvbdBcg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0qn6FuPPLdQUA4Yk+RkJjYXwvT6rbf7iPRC6+1G5NfwcPXGhpYboHhlyYSI1fNPQL0Af9Cw== X-Received: by 2002:a37:4c0d:: with SMTP id z13mr9419979qka.170.1592921365489; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 07:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.12] ([71.161.209.175]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t36sm705602qtj.58.2020.06.23.07.09.24 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Jun 2020 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [J3] (SC22WG5.6256) 2022 WG5 meeting To: WG5 List References: <20200619235913.262F1358B1A@www.open-std.org> <67861af9-2206-4559-8964-dd29728263f9@www.fastmail.com> <20200623001049.666E5357140@www.open-std.org> From: Steve Lionel X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 10:09:21 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk On 6/22/2020 11:45 PM, Vipul Parekh via J3 wrote: > The heightened situational awareness they bring any time they are on > their own, particularly as nearly half have or can experience > harassment **, can be compounded by greatly increased tension when the > destination is Vegas.  Something as simple as a seat assignment on a > plane to and from Vegas or catching a taxi/uber in the city or needing > to walk to a pharmacy can all be tremendous stressors in this situation. I read the presentation you linked to, but it focused on behaviors at general industry conferences, nothing like J3 meetings. Are you suggesting that these stressors are exaggerated in Vegas and would be less present in any other large city? Personally, I dislike Vegas and would be delighted to never have to set foot in it again, but I recognize its advantages for J3 meetings and put up with it. I am not seeing anyone raise their hand and offer to help find alternative venues with similar advantages. (Just naming cities is insufficient.) Steve