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(GSFC-6101)" To: David Muxworthy , General J3 interest list CC: "sc22wg5@open-std.org" , David Muxworthy Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [J3] (SC22WG5.6228) Fwd: [SC22] ISO Gender Action Plan Survey Thread-Topic: [EXTERNAL] [J3] (SC22WG5.6228) Fwd: [SC22] ISO Gender Action Plan Survey Thread-Index: AQHWOqWEHNOMaNnb3UuLJFXtbt9XS6jI2KMA Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 19:33:06 +0000 Message-ID: <26D01035-4278-480E-8A9E-0D82BC37BC2D@nasa.gov> References: <20200602173624.B077A45C@mailrelay3.iso.org> <20200602174327.45629358B07@www.open-std.org> <20200604170932.DC8BD9DB160@www.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20200604170932.DC8BD9DB160@www.open-std.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) authentication-results: open-std.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;open-std.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=nasa.gov; x-originating-ip: [192.92.191.238] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 8e2e094f-7f19-49c5-2c78-08d808be1b1c x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: MN2PR09MB3565: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:7691; x-forefront-prvs: 04244E0DC5 x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: meKZEX6dmYEC/lY+Bec+uLPob8cjgqY9cEVwRY13mX17PFBBpKqYcSlRjF/jdUucOfZQkqpHjc9AMy2j/lYDQro2eUsgKVMEeZgZa92oBlXrFxEHPEeY5K7ptMpIsKXHG1NDMjuT19iNUIDRaPwW72U3aIJ97tJRzUMdT4WdV2APNHbNdGPtz+qCDAVl8YPbpiSn7lavHEVeReK1g3HIrFFcvXaz+1f1WOzatm0QPWjjOlgzU2o3RW9/77V1sdnFZqUadZF3zaQc4GPOhlYFkEcYLrr3GWuGMWuFuTnOGywlPrkDZxHqq3vNNqPMQJVh x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255;CTRY:;LANG:en;SCL:1;SRV:;IPV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;H:MN2PR09MB5644.namprd09.prod.outlook.com;PTR:;CAT:NONE;SFTY:;SFS:(346002)(396003)(366004)(136003)(39860400002)(376002)(2616005)(186003)(66476007)(5660300002)(76116006)(53546011)(6486002)(26005)(2906002)(8936002)(6506007)(6512007)(64756008)(66446008)(66946007)(110136005)(71200400001)(8676002)(33656002)(66556008)(54906003)(316002)(4326008)(86362001)(478600001)(36756003);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102; x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: 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 x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1238E30E13D65541BDC8F9FFE0282A93@namprd09.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 8e2e094f-7f19-49c5-2c78-08d808be1b1c X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 04 Jun 2020 19:33:06.3628 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 7005d458-45be-48ae-8140-d43da96dd17b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: wmP0c0kseLxHhHoYJ7eWhfXxf4tvaaGE1pjRarnSIGcj6ZJ0NKkhPbsH+6yVbIa/FKqEzPVzFcb3qI9FydQUoQ== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MN2PR09MB3565 X-OriginatorOrg: nasa.gov X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.216,18.0.687 definitions=2020-06-04_13:2020-06-04,2020-06-04 signatures=0 Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk Yes - I was a bit amused by the amateurish nature of the survey. I also ha= d a problem that they introduced an acronym I did not know on the first que= stion. But mostly I was relieved that it was incredibly short. Most surveys I ge= t these days have me quit after 5-10 minutes of either losing patience with= repetitive questions or encountering too many questions that have vague or= poorly defined answers. > On Jun 4, 2020, at 1:09 PM, David Muxworthy via J3 wrote: >=20 > No-one has commented on the fact that self-selecting surveys in any > case are of dubious value. ISO has a complete register of the experts > who can take part in ISO committees, all nominated by their national > bodies. All they have to do to get an accurate picture is to ask each > national body for the gender statistics for their nominees. >=20 > It is almost unbelievably amateurish to write "I thank you in advance > for sharing this survey with the experts of your TC, SC, PC and/or WG" > if the results are to have any validity. >=20 > David Muxworthy >=20