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Thu, 4 Jun 2020 19:24:40 +0000 From: Bill Long To: David Muxworthy , General J3 interest list CC: "sc22wg5@open-std.org" , David Muxworthy Subject: Re: [J3] (SC22WG5.6228) Fwd: [SC22] ISO Gender Action Plan Survey Thread-Topic: [J3] (SC22WG5.6228) Fwd: [SC22] ISO Gender Action Plan Survey Thread-Index: AQHWOqTE15Ih+bhkHEWdOrPokHL6JqjI1kqA Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 19:24:40 +0000 Message-ID: <1771AAB6-F5A3-4ACB-92BE-6DB646310051@cray.com> References: <20200602173624.B077A45C@mailrelay3.iso.org> <20200602174327.45629358B07@www.open-std.org> <20200604170932.DC8BD9DB160@www.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20200604170932.DC8BD9DB160@www.open-std.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) authentication-results: bcs.org.uk; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;bcs.org.uk; dmarc=none action=none header.from=cray.com; x-originating-ip: [65.128.172.205] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 1e311a00-c490-46dd-8792-08d808bceda0 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: DM6PR11MB3274: x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:9508; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: cray.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 1e311a00-c490-46dd-8792-08d808bceda0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 04 Jun 2020 19:24:40.5320 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: e7b8488a-c0cd-4614-aae1-996bfabec247 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: FGGQhAvFbJnjZKQVMe18caoSLL6R0smmn8a9hYEhcTJLcL9O7BPmyOixKm6c+lkY X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR11MB3274 Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk And, if they were only interested in gender data, they could probably guess= pretty accurately from just looking though the list. I suspect they were = really after the age and years-of-service information. =20 > On Jun 4, 2020, at 12:09 PM, David Muxworthy via J3 wrote: >=20 > No-one has commented on the fact that self-selecting surveys in any > case are of dubious value. ISO has a complete register of the experts > who can take part in ISO committees, all nominated by their national > bodies. All they have to do to get an accurate picture is to ask each > national body for the gender statistics for their nominees. >=20 > It is almost unbelievably amateurish to write "I thank you in advance > for sharing this survey with the experts of your TC, SC, PC and/or WG" > if the results are to have any validity. >=20 > David Muxworthy >=20 Bill Long = longb@cray.com Principal Engineer, Fortran Technical Support & voice: 651-605-9024 Bioinformatics Software Development fax: 651-605-9143 Cray, a Hewlett Packard Enterprise company/ 2131 Lindau Lane/ Suite 1000/ = Bloomington, MN 55425