From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Sun May 3 01:44:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 543A9358A23; Sun, 3 May 2020 01:44:41 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-qt1-f170.google.com (mail-qt1-f170.google.com [209.85.160.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0528635698C for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 01:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f170.google.com with SMTP id o10so11004360qtr.6 for ; Sat, 02 May 2020 16:44:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stevelionel.com; s=google; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=YoYYxk4T56f+dtOpz9mDtJhgWYiuTblJFESJ8STrpiw=; b=QGrG4eq1wB3pcxEgyDAJ04oFyWAouGSOyo7tpJDqmiu8swKJhAOPhdNJ9muIhHcNL+ XksZqU2U/1ccE4RksqqIhHDf425PmqUov98NdqznmNxQeNL03D+lIUKq2jJPAUiUWDdH rT25LkK6OU1a3E3WXIKkO+T2GRyra2Nc7/+Fo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=YoYYxk4T56f+dtOpz9mDtJhgWYiuTblJFESJ8STrpiw=; b=Wog8YXOW0Hl0Rps0J0wnAI2WBeCWZ5UHXgMSGMfEgZwI/HXhXc4sO2uJKeippzmo6B kwv7I1fKxVFquC4t0LNolr9jl/br1fZNPfqca5j7M2QtkSKxOfHFcTGjjIPoWCKj/lCt BiiiGkebiCq2rl3k7QnC3aBByo3HH9rb8D6Bbl/nATZ4o0CgJSParp0O/Wd3Hrqy/3OF 1xCREzCC3JPolfomWFxZPuK9ZXQqKFjmc3Pwi2YlAN/2qgA3fQDbJvyLbIIs5UfP6bGl Ko9K92o6PPCc8fTyoA9Qx2e8QfXPGVdDOTXLhdeszT6YLfFNUkW/ZcbnMEqBFL1vdeNq dbfw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaxFT4D0M/ZJZK6aphu1mkPkBrlzOseHIUOtb3xlqfyXe4n4NDm OPUKkQe7Udek0bzq3mD5FYcwYsJsiiJXaw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLzOw9EgfKyexgM5F+5JWcG6wg0UXmMLaJB9VD7Ee2aKHKmVuIKqoaNm/QG9LFRM/A51lRLhA== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:27cb:: with SMTP id x11mr2216549qtx.272.1588463079071; Sat, 02 May 2020 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.241.130.117]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b68sm6335702qkc.132.2020.05.02.16.44.38 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 May 2020 16:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [J3] October meeting - Go Virtual/Mixed-mode, or be discriminatory To: WG5 List References: <20200428004737.19A4F9DB145@www.open-std.org> <20200428074311.C5B783568BB@www.open-std.org> From: Steve Lionel X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 19:44:37 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FD2AF9AF6B10E98215E48A9C" Content-Language: en-US Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FD2AF9AF6B10E98215E48A9C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 5/2/2020 7:25 PM, Vipul Parekh via J3 wrote: > It will be highly remiss of both ISO and INCITS to not allow > virtual participation in any governance and technical meetings during > the rest of 2020 and likely through 2021, or at least until a time the > risk assessments with COVID-19 outbreak have been lowered sufficiently > and the public heath emergency declarations by international > organizations such as W.H.O. and national bodies such as US C.D.C have > been lifted.  To not do so will be highly discriminatory against those > possible participants who, given their own personal health > considerations or of those in their care or environs, are in a "high > risk" category. ISO and INCITS already *allow *virtual participation, so this is not an issue. I have already started investigating what we would need to do this for the October meeting, should it happen. (I have heard suggestions ISO might extend the ban on in-person meetings further.) As has been discussed recently, the time zone issue is a real killer for WG5, not so much for J3 (except for Malcolm, who is a critical member of J3, and lives in Japan.) If nothing else we will need to restructure the (largely J3-oriented) schedule we follow that assumes everyone is present. I had a productive talk the other day with Bryce Lelbach, PL22 chair, on how we can acquire the hardware we need to make this work. Both ISO and INCITS already offer the software. Steve --------------FD2AF9AF6B10E98215E48A9C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 5/2/2020 7:25 PM, Vipul Parekh via J3 wrote:
It will be highly remiss of both ISO and INCITS to not allow virtual participation in any governance and technical meetings during the rest of 2020 and likely through 2021, or at least until a time the risk assessments with COVID-19 outbreak have been lowered sufficiently and the public heath emergency declarations by international organizations such as W.H.O. and national bodies such as US C.D.C have been lifted.  To not do so will be highly discriminatory against those possible participants who, given their own personal health considerations or of those in their care or environs, are in a "high risk" category.

ISO and INCITS already allow virtual participation, so this is not an issue. I have already started investigating what we would need to do this for the October meeting, should it happen. (I have heard suggestions ISO might extend the ban on in-person meetings further.) As has been discussed recently, the time zone issue is a real killer for WG5, not so much for J3 (except for Malcolm, who is a critical member of J3, and lives in Japan.) If nothing else we will need to restructure the (largely J3-oriented) schedule we follow that assumes everyone is present.

I had a productive talk the other day with Bryce Lelbach, PL22 chair, on how we can acquire the hardware we need to make this work. Both ISO and INCITS already offer the software.

Steve


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