From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Sun May 3 01:25:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 089919DB116; Sun, 3 May 2020 01:25:56 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-ua1-f53.google.com (mail-ua1-f53.google.com [209.85.222.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6C435698C for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 01:25:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-ua1-f53.google.com with SMTP id m9so5133463uaq.12 for ; Sat, 02 May 2020 16:25:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1V3p20NllFwkwNMJOLhOgeOdM9wXPRFoQlNrLDwPMpI=; b=lAgY8bfCzLjMTDc1movXo5lFn7+k27X+UZIhwupNufB0P2sg/VuCbsGpz6ccXpBJpc gCUMHnZGgWcEqVevakCVc8+Pf0DzMT06EjvrZ4pCnwDSmYyIazVnxp5G3OTW4BV6emFg /JSsN4xxHRxDIidLfxyvqdHqrQI7zkIws4R+dlFmaGXWg5wbSWiDADcEenT0MAmpe3PO G5iuwOcKK7E7L0lgHzoN9C0OBukHqBOlns393fvP4BYcG4ia7q0s9MJU4ZuX1HmjjjUQ +i/sBsvHsAoZbUYrQhUhiEFuRrniMMGDtufHMYQtxdF+D7lzDYC542GqtpAWR0jayXaW RoYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1V3p20NllFwkwNMJOLhOgeOdM9wXPRFoQlNrLDwPMpI=; b=E8GSqGi5xDr4Wmnbdb+3sxHZqWYwAfNekYkfz5ixgiErS/jqYgwAeD4b4tMAP6+LZV Alz/ezkZkETaOzRkAZGgvAjDqxE3Xivydyf60Cbhp+Dy1+yWbLIV3salFxbFCsLQgn4X TfNri85TCVScGiCULay1lA4wcx/OlkXlbW7zPpiccZnkGgZfSpjn3oKBEwMmD6zri70C zmOIVv4HoNB9FWbkSad68KiKaEF7maD5Gi0mRWx3WWFNhMxNGrb+otGb06Zr8oXvuuZ8 RXaBvUOhESvLjo4sVowTs+ihxQ50lrj148D/DhKp+UG1i7DMXnVOVjBQDbh+Fw5kEWU6 168g== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYFNSqUCBu8w0Q6peHLyWCxmSfUIL2ECfzGKrmZei4pBBI+bwfz R7/J7fVTNabs3Ze507qr+Bu+8+9x7Ts1yrHga/k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJbTVwF+A7Jc+V6IeRwXP5bWB7U2dqqIGLeCDqnK6UAl7ZzddSNH/GztCgeY+Pb9EFa90Re/ouwaU6MFzNQowc= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:624b:: with SMTP id p11mr7089891uao.94.1588461953749; Sat, 02 May 2020 16:25:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200428004737.19A4F9DB145@www.open-std.org> <20200428074311.C5B783568BB@www.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20200428074311.C5B783568BB@www.open-std.org> From: Vipul Parekh Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 19:25:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: October meeting - Go Virtual/Mixed-mode, or be discriminatory To: General J3 interest list Cc: WG5 List , Nathan Sircombe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007e16e005a4b29e4b" Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk --0000000000007e16e005a4b29e4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ISO website says on homepage: All ISO governance and technical meetings planned until 31 July 2020 must be held virtually or postponed until after that date. Up until a few days ago, the date was some time in June when ISO was asking for virtual meetings or postponement. WG5 should either expect this date to keep getting pushed back, or for this mandate to be temporarily removed post-July only to be reinstated later when the weather starts to turn colder in many regions. INCITS website has an update on homepage with a link to a Twitter message that says: @INCITS Cloud 38 is meeting in mixed mode for the JTC1 SC38 Plenary. This is the first SC38 Plenary using mixed mode due to covid19. It is working great thanks to the wonderful facility DIN Deutsches Institut f=C3=BCr Norm= ung e. V. Thanks Eva Zeitz. It will be highly remiss of both ISO and INCITS to not allow virtual participation in any governance and technical meetings during the rest of 2020 and likely through 2021, or at least until a time the risk assessments with COVID-19 outbreak have been lowered sufficiently and the public heath emergency declarations by international organizations such as W.H.O. and national bodies such as US C.D.C have been lifted. To not do so will be highly discriminatory against those possible participants who, given their own personal health considerations or of those in their care or environs, are in a "high risk" category. I request WG5 and J3 to anticipate a virtual or a mixed-mode requirement for the October meeting and to do the needful to make such a meeting a success. Also, WG5, J3 need not "reinvent the wheel" for virtual participation: there are lots of other recent events with similar (or greater) challenges from which WG5, J3 can learn. Start with INCITS on their SC38 Plenary mixed-mode meeting. Vipul Parekh Fortran enthusiast --0000000000007e16e005a4b29e4b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ISO website says on homepage:
All ISO governance and technical meetings planned=C2=A0until 31=C2=A0July 2020=C2=A0must be held virtually or postponed until after that date.=C2=A0
Up until a few days ago, the date was some time in June= when ISO was asking for virtual=C2=A0meetings or postponement.=C2=A0 WG5 s= hould either expect this date to keep getting pushed back, or for this mand= ate to be temporarily removed post-July only to be reinstated later when th= e weather starts to=C2=A0turn colder in many regions.=C2=A0
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INCITS website has an update on homepage with a link to a Twi= tter message that says:
@INCITS Cl= oud 38 is meeting in mixed mode for the JTC1 SC38 Plenary. This is the firs= t SC38 Plenary using mixed mode due to covid19. It is working great thanks = to the wonderful facility DIN Deutsches Institut f=C3=BCr Normung e. V. Tha= nks Eva Zeitz.

It w= ill be highly remiss of both ISO and INCITS to not allow virtual=C2=A0parti= cipation in any governance and technical meetings during the rest of 2020 a= nd likely through 2021, or at least until a time the risk assessments with = COVID-19 outbreak have been lowered sufficiently and the public heath=C2=A0= emergency declarations by international organizations such as W.H.O. and na= tional bodies such as US C.D.C have been lifted.=C2=A0 To not do so will be= highly discriminatory against those possible participants who, given their= own personal health considerations or of those in their care or environs, = are in a "high risk" category.

I request= WG5 and J3 to anticipate a virtual or a mixed-mode requirement for the Oct= ober=20 meeting=20 and to do the needful to make such a meeting a success.

Also, WG5, J3 need not "reinvent the wheel" for virtual par= ticipation: there are lots of other recent events with similar (or greater)= challenges from which WG5, J3 can learn.=C2=A0 Start with INCITS on their= =20 SC38 Plenary mixed-mode meeting.

Vipul Parekh
Fortran= enthusiast



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