From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Wed Apr 29 10:20:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id CA63C9DB116; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:20:32 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-oo1-f43.google.com (mail-oo1-f43.google.com [209.85.161.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BB8358A01 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:20:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-oo1-f43.google.com with SMTP id g14so240591ooa.4 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:20:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Zfdv9i4ULqDUyCQ2bNBGntPpbI3HLBn2QtegFCqlhvA=; b=Er7A90FuDI2TUa8nk8INrRnJDJdPa2L+6udk4Q2gy6b4YjoHhsZEO8DCLl3X9ozAxv gJRUqVpnt/EvUfQ6kURAD1RbdtLBnYrjFg0fPsy/+WB80Pj2rN8CQFIzZW8BIreyUF9c Kdk3WejIW0f5+475alMrcqtKqZk0tFhxdX+rjMd3VwmNYoM32U4PU1d6RqUkWMFK/b2F jlrRRM83XwHrbEUIKLs1eiK64KIy4ptYwzVQmVTB5Mxvu6rOTfWFSG+dIlAgCZOAMAjw gDZUBFBVJxAoEHSXSgpbv7RMWf2YCXbsc83cwj13T0Eu62TFcIbu5gGabwqm6oOCNksS VFWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Zfdv9i4ULqDUyCQ2bNBGntPpbI3HLBn2QtegFCqlhvA=; b=iDvl6+WZsGijvCNzRWl43C6RjX8TXAJd7naNKPNKzhL3D6T96YD/G4VFfJ9bKGPIJY jPuHv1bLtZBdZGircbkgCAKtmocRvRfMB246VT7lQFSEYh3LO4r4fYposAfjHKCrsViM xsCnQalGW4ZjJSRf6rSmuYoE5fqxsGMkDZt+3os1RNyrmcXU8DDI2aCdSSZVgvfvAMU7 tM/CdLRsBQjhMaptszivtx7UDO9YK/Nm2kbUNVJDsu6ngM6tbhuOmrWMASa/ajtDR+Si kOf/GsAAxtsADIf3l+acc9Mfw+C/Ph48dRsgNUsDihRu6cOTCL0OMOQKc4uLh2whxTFU /Oow== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaJ/EBn8HM+KeAngZSFT0sOf8O0l5yqX59WwGAYS62y/OStqE+4 uosa9EfCXI2srUfJ2y/QcuH01q+CUt1Yafebdus= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIct9LqgQA5qcuo1GLliKU2mQByxnJAvhuqzHeproGNGjT8EsyxsFfYtlLCklgE1gsEAdrbvH62JDTTcm3rpX4= X-Received: by 2002:a4a:be13:: with SMTP id l19mr26693676oop.78.1588148430972; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:20:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200428004737.19A4F9DB145@www.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: From: Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka wash Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:20:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [J3] (SC22WG5.6172) October meeting visa invitation letter To: General J3 interest list Cc: WG5 List , Nathan Sircombe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000142d2805a4699f00" Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk --000000000000142d2805a4699f00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You may also find this document useful, which describes the remote operating procedures of the ISO C++ committee: https://isocpp.org/files/papers/P2145R0.html -- Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka wash US Programming Language Standards (PL22) Chair ISO C++ Library Evolution Chair CppCon and C++Now Program Chair CUDA Core C++ Libraries (Thrust, CUB, libcu++) Lead @ NVIDIA -- On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 01:18 Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka wash < brycelelbach@gmail.com> wrote: > In 2019 ISO began been "beta testing" a virtual standard development > process. > > See attached document with more information. > > -- > Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka wash > US Programming Language Standards (PL22) Chair > ISO C++ Library Evolution Chair > CppCon and C++Now Program Chair > CUDA Core C++ Libraries (Thrust, CUB, libcu++) Lead @ NVIDIA > -- > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 00:43 Nathan Sircombe via J3 < > j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I wonder, now that the next WG5 meeting is confirmed for October in Las >> Vegas, if this would be a good time to re-open the discussion about >> supporting remote attendance? We have just shy of 6 months in hand - ple= nty >> of time to prepare. >> Maybe this discussion is already taking place? In any case, it would mak= e >> sense to have that discussion on-list. >> >> It seems terribly over-optimistic to assume that a meeting in October >> won't be impacted by the ongoing situation. We have to deal with: the >> possibility of a second 'wave'; significant changes to, and restrictions >> on, international travel; a variation in guidance between member countri= es, >> and member's employer's; member's personal choice to avoid international >> travel. >> >> So, some obvious questions about our preparedness; >> - What infrastructure can the venue supply to help enable remote >> attendance? >> - What can ISO, or INCITS, do to help support remote attendance? >> - What can we do to reform our workflows to support remote attendance, >> and some degree of 'time-shifted' engagement with the process. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =EF=BB=BFOn 28/04/2020, 01:47, "J3 on behalf of Steve Lionel via J3" < >> j3-bounces@mailman.j3-fortran.org on behalf of j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org= > >> wrote: >> >> If you think you might need a visa invitation letter to attend the >> October 12-16 WG5 meeting in Las Vegas (assuming it happens!), fill >> out >> the form at >> >> https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=3Dll&objId=3D21198219&objAc= tion=3DOpen&nexturl=3D%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D8919784%= 26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1 >> and submit it to ANSI (instructions in the form.) >> >> I'm not sure this is necessary, but those of you from outside the US >> would probably know better than I. >> >> I'd also appreciate it if you would register at >> https://sd.iso.org/meetings/69097 - this isn't required, but is >> helpful. >> Thanks. >> >> Hope to see you there! >> >> Steve >> >> >> IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are >> confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended >> recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the >> contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy t= he >> information in any medium. Thank you. >> > --000000000000142d2805a4699f00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You may also find this document useful, which describes t= he remote operating procedures of the ISO C++ committee:
<= br>
https://isocpp.org/files/papers/P2145R0.html

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Bryce Ad= elstein Lelbach aka wash
US Programming Language Standards (PL22) Chair<= br>ISO C++ Library Evolution Chair
CppCon and C++Now Program Chair
CU= DA Core C++ Libraries (Thrust, CUB, libcu++) Lead @ NVIDIA
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 01:18 Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka wash <brycelelbach@gmail.com> wrote= :
In 2019 ISO beg= an been "beta testing" a virtual standard development process.
See attached document with more = information.

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Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka= wash
US Programming Language Standards (PL22) Chair
ISO C++ Library = Evolution Chair
CppCon and C++Now Program Chair
CUDA Core C++ Librari= es (Thrust, CUB, libcu++) Lead @ NVIDIA
--

On Tue, Apr 28, 20= 20, 00:43 Nathan Sircombe via J3 <j3@mailma= n.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
Hi,=

I wonder, now that the next WG5 meeting is confirmed for October in Las Veg= as, if this would be a good time to re-open the discussion about supporting= remote attendance? We have just shy of 6 months in hand - plenty of time t= o prepare.
Maybe this discussion is already taking place? In any case, it would make s= ense to have that discussion on-list.

It seems terribly over-optimistic to assume that a meeting in October won&#= 39;t be impacted by the ongoing situation. We have to deal with: the possib= ility of a second 'wave'; significant changes to, and restrictions = on, international travel; a variation in guidance between member countries,= and member's employer's; member's personal choice to avoid int= ernational travel.

So, some obvious questions about our preparedness;
- What infrastructure can the venue supply to help enable remote attendance= ?
- What can ISO, or INCITS, do to help support remote attendance?
- What can we do to reform our workflows to support remote attendance, and = some degree of 'time-shifted' engagement with the process.


Cheers,
Nathan.






=EF=BB=BFOn 28/04/2020, 01:47, "J3 on behalf of Steve Lionel via J3&qu= ot; <j3-bounces@mailman.= j3-fortran.org on behalf of j3@= mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If you think you might need a visa invitation letter to atten= d the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 October 12-16 WG5 meeting in Las Vegas (assuming it happens!)= , fill out
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the form at
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=3Dll&objId=3D21198219&a= mp;objAction=3DOpen&nexturl=3D%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objI= d%3D8919784%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and submit it to ANSI (instructions in the form.)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'm not sure this is necessary, but those of you from out= side the US
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 would probably know better than I.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'd also appreciate it if you would register at
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://s= d.iso.org/meetings/69097 - this isn't required, but is helpful.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hope to see you there!

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Steve


IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, p= lease notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any= other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in = any medium. Thank you.
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