From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom9=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Wed Apr 29 01:53:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom9 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom9@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 6A4F69DB116; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:53:14 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-wm1-f42.google.com (mail-wm1-f42.google.com [209.85.128.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313EB3587DD for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:53:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f42.google.com with SMTP id v4so3550290wme.1 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:53:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=d28qVLcb2Vvob0A8piXUATh2WQ9bHym9r34llwYoTms=; b=MChQA394YmrM95hPFN7kNDp131tomletPzWwF8YR2wOVBJZzkELqYNCDNXTPFOf8CK 0zWl2LFGlv3kQumeb4OJIO2ScApIMz1CFTH7QAP3UCAehJCPZTPV27mzQk36DlxchXmx ygtPWG3t1KU84uJY7Z5voLhqO5clpAfPcAEr1EqaF3e9npXJ9TwSmtX6nOlaKMRI7V+m sYxU0JvS3ctvZwYZxZsmF2x3T8FPqnZL7/Mi3l273ogevg4DKYU0mciztGi1GBedij8v t9UzHq8ti8UPReAVszTAoy5pkH/izlwsqIQVevwnZQy2pvNB6fofRx1ojd9BFJk7RBhB i5cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=d28qVLcb2Vvob0A8piXUATh2WQ9bHym9r34llwYoTms=; b=b8b0IzDs7YpOfsnlczggfzRTMboxZ3uYY/qcRulhXiBy/I7dKjglzMwkYBGqOYlaG0 5n5DeTG1Zx/+o88YeTUBdSR8+TeIYQUgOLbOvwpMZhBXvNUavQAY7easnpmO95KiORwi E1+APebfhtWe4GLR694Oz8PTiS2gbfG7iyeC7pzEOxqdZ+nBLaBJ23Fa1QCwEK2kwrro 1sJbaqVjUZPULejIiyqbdYxNOHYsDLn3IcvoK+AZkSoKCJhAcGc6UxZp2Q/TcaPY4pD6 qAGC/UiQr2vYs8HFe+TOXnZ3z6uGH/hDv+NSB5EPsXPTm24dwN0q5E0GAZQS3OxwyWxr w7VA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubsX0GLHy4k2e0FfLG4lvkYDW26qkerWABsOrSnRz4ZwysvZAiU ue0fu5gbnlXNsJi+okDbf8XMvp/yTUwLC1SueD5beKgf X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKXDTu4Xs+GsG/vK8OG9o6WbdUzUeuoalTu6rTIj1rx3ybm0AgFUH4MhYEkNNvB3DZ+t50Dn+NUOeoCsVPEQQ8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:2c47:: with SMTP id r7mr31563wmg.50.1588117993561; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:53:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200428004737.19A4F9DB145@www.open-std.org> <20200428114456.5CCDA3568A1@www.open-std.org> <999548a1-9f82-418c-b8be-1fd87f94d3be@www.fastmail.com> <20200428172340.851A13568A1@www.open-std.org> <20200428195502.E072C3568BB@www.open-std.org> <5a392c04-ddab-46e6-8024-ae89b8658d29@www.fastmail.com> <20200428225409.F33B13587B3@www.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20200428225409.F33B13587B3@www.open-std.org> From: Milan Curcic Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 19:53:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [J3] (SC22WG5.6179) [ukfortran] October meeting visa invitation letter To: General J3 interest list Cc: Bill Long , WG5 List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000de218d05a462883b" Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk --000000000000de218d05a462883b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The community is on GitHub. For people who prefer working by email, GitHub allows that. Just set the repo to "Watch" and you'll get emails in real time. Respond to email as usual. Committees of various other languages have been working like this successfully. I look forward to joining remotely in October. Cheers, Milan On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:54 PM Bill Long via J3 wrote: > > > > On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Ond=C5=99ej =C4=8Cert=C3=ADk via J3 < > j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote: > > > >> I'm very much against drastic changes. > >> > >> Assuming we are talking about > >> an evolution, not revolution, > > > > Yes, evolution, not revolution. > > Taking the paper discussion out of J3 and moving it to your githib site > seems a lot like revolution. > > Anton=E2=80=99s point about time zones is well taken. We had a lot of di= scussion > about that when we were having similar planning sessions for the > now-cancelled June meeting. The time zone issue is even more dramatic fo= r > someone in Japan, which is effectively 12-hours, day / night reversed fro= m > the US. I doubt if any of those of us in the US would have been happy > about the idea of making the meeting in Tokyo on-line (during daytime hou= rs > there). > > Another topic that is quite relevant, that came up before, is that it is > very hard for people to get away from their =E2=80=9Cday jobs=E2=80=9D if= they are at their > home location. This is an important reason the Las Vegas meetings are d= o > effective. > > Cheers, > Bill > > > Bill Long > longb@cray.com > Principal Engineer, Fortran Technical Support & voice: 651-605-9024 > Bioinformatics Software Development fax: 651-605-91= 43 > Cray, a Hewlett Packard Enterprise company/ 2131 Lindau Lane/ Suite > 1000/ Bloomington, MN 55425 > > > > --000000000000de218d05a462883b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The community is on GitHub.=C2=A0

For people who prefer working by email, GitHub allows= that. Just set the repo to "Watch" and you'll get emails in = real time. Respond to email as usual.=C2=A0

Committees of various other languages have been working= like this successfully.=C2=A0

I look forward to joining remotely in October.=C2=A0

Cheers,
Milan<= /div>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:54 PM Bill Long via J3 <j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:


> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Ond=C5=99ej =C4=8Cert=C3=ADk via J3 <<= a href=3D"mailto:j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe= rrer">j3@mailman.j3-fortran.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm very much against drastic changes.
>>
>> Assuming we are talking about
>> an evolution, not revolution,
>
> Yes, evolution, not revolution.

Taking the paper discussion out of J3 and moving it to your githib site see= ms a lot like revolution.

Anton=E2=80=99s point about time zones is well taken.=C2=A0 We had a lot of= discussion about that when we were having similar planning sessions for th= e now-cancelled June meeting.=C2=A0 The time zone issue is even more dramat= ic for someone in Japan, which is effectively 12-hours, day / night reverse= d from the US.=C2=A0 I doubt if any of those of us in the US would have bee= n happy about the idea of making the meeting in Tokyo on-line (during dayti= me hours there).

Another topic that is quite relevant, that came up before, is that it is ve= ry hard for people to get away from their =E2=80=9Cday jobs=E2=80=9D if the= y are at their home location.=C2=A0 =C2=A0This is an important reason the L= as Vegas meetings are do effective.

Cheers,
Bill


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