From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom8=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Sun Sep 8 12:57:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 8ECDC358796; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 12:57:32 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from smtp-out-5.tiscali.co.uk (unknown [62.24.135.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271CA356DC5 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 12:57:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([212.139.64.177]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP id 6usdiKrHTjwfX6usdimZ2g; Sun, 08 Sep 2019 11:57:15 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [212.139.64.177] Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.6138) Draft WG5 minutes From: John Reid To: WG5 References: <36bbf069-2d03-3a2a-64b8-1cea9dd07632@stfc.ac.uk> <20190901135008.E8D5235859B@www.open-std.org> <6a7af35a-af3e-f7b2-aae7-0a5913bc318c@stfc.ac.uk> <3e297e6f-9b9f-aa50-4589-af48443247b9@edogawa-u.ac.jp> <158605e5-4466-3c56-a639-4624bd3b7d6a@stfc.ac.uk> <62f31521-7183-ede5-e9d2-106bda738b3c@stfc.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3b44d278-0053-133d-bdd9-a70bf805f4be@stfc.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2019 11:57:14 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F1B6EC158A3E8A4AAB0567AC" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHVMdvtDZzyKI8QiNVK8c1fl9rKvgXMaWgzjZz89mfCzXuNoOn1bmvRhJfKoEJZVbYDYl83Pl9sUd4Uaif8G82mXSW5PS5tYNBxhVzHby/Uau75idg7Z KPdDmamWx1xxRO0m0U2996nDVswjj6ELfRMEby1W7q3DVsF1DydMlpplyEFZCidUg0wZuDZkfVntRETc3WTP6zmdO7ke+dxujm0= Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F1B6EC158A3E8A4AAB0567AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit WG5, During the week, I have made some changes in response to requests from Makki and Hideto. Here, hopefully is the final version and a diff against N2169-3 which I sent to you on 3 Sept. I do not think any of the change is controversial - they relate to formatting and to referencing the correct Japanese bodies. Steve, will you please mount this version on the WG5 site? Cheers, John. John Reid wrote: > Hideto, > > Thanks. I will ask Steve to issue the minutes now. > > Cheers, > > John. > > > iwashita.hideto@fujitsu.com wrote: >> John, >> >> I am sorry for late reply. >> It's fine to me. >> >> Hideto >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John Reid [mailto:John.Reid@stfc.ac.uk] >>> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 5:38 PM >>> To: Iwashita, Hidetoshi/岩下 英俊 ; 'TAKATA >>> Masayuki' >>> Cc: 'Hiroyuki Sato' >>> Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.6138) Draft WG5 minutes >>> >>> >>> >>> iwashita.hideto@fujitsu.com wrote: >>>> John and Makki, >>>> >>>> For this suggestion from Makki: >>>>>> Iwashita-san: Didn't you say anything on the schedule of F2018 >>>>>> translation? >>>> >>>> I mentioned about the start of the organization for the translation. >>>> But it was not determined information and actually the plan was >>>> changed today. >>> So I don't want John to add the schedule I mentioned. >>>> >>>> >>>> Another comment: >>>> I found the indentation was broken here because of using tab >>>> characters: >>>> >>>>           The Fortran Promoting Consortium (HPFPC) is active and >>>>           organized a half-day meeting on Friday August 2 on >>> >>> >>> Thank you. I have fixed this. Is everything OK with you now? >>> >>> John. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> With best wishes, >>>> >>>> Hideto >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: John Reid [mailto:John.Reid@stfc.ac.uk] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 5:57 PM >>>>> To: TAKATA Masayuki >>>>> Cc: Hiroyuki Sato ; Iwashita, >>>>> Hidetoshi/ >>>>> 岩下 英俊 >>>>> Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.6138) Draft WG5 minutes >>>>> >>>>> Makki, >>>>> >>>>> I will reply privately to the three of you to get the Japanese part >>>>> right before telling WG5. >>>>> >>>>> TAKATA Masayuki wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the title: >>>>>>> Hosted by IPSJ/ITSCJ, the Japan Member Body for JTC1/SC22 >>>>>> >>>>>> This is inaccurate and inappropriate.  IPSJ/ITSCJ corresponds to >>>>>> JTC1 and does actual work on behalf of JISC, the National Member >>>>>> Body. >>>>>> Neither JISC nor >>>>>> IPSJ/ITSCJ/SC22 were involved >>>>>> in management of the meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> --> "Hosted by IPSJ/ITSCJ, and Held at the University of Tokyo" >>>>>>     or "Held at the University of Tokyo" >>>>> >>>>> Done. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You may spell out the acronyms, but the place is more important than >>>>>> the full name of the host in the title, for practical purposes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In 2.2 Welcome from the Host >>>>>>> Masayuki Takata welcomed participants, on behalf of the High >>>>>>> Performancecomputing with Fortran Promoting Consortium (HPFPC) and >>>>>>> the Universityof Tokyo. >>>>>> >>>>>> HPFPC is irrelevant.  The University is relevant but only >>>>>> indirectly, and I think I didn't mention it. >>>>>> >>>>>> --> "Masayuki Takata welcomed participants, on behalf of IPSJ/ITSCJ, >>>>>> --> the >>>>>> host organization." >>>>>> >>>>>> I received a direct message from John, that said: >>>>>>> Here is another try: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Masayuki Takata welcomed participants. He explained about >>>>>>> refreshments during the meeting and about the Wednesday evening >>>>>>> reception, both provided by the High Performance computing with >>>>>>> Fortran Promoting Consortium (HPFPC), and the meeting rooms >>>>>>> provided by the University of Tokyo." >>>>>> >>>>>> This is true, after you replace HPFPC with IPSJ/ITSCJ, though I >>>>>> personally prefer a simple way. >>>>>> Both are okay with me, and the choice is up to you, John. >>>>> >>>>> Is what I have now OK? >>>>> >>>>>> In 5.2 National Activity Reports >>>>>>> Japan:    ITSCJ supplied its requests for the next revision of the >>>>>>>             standard (N2168). HPFPC is active and organized a >>>>>>> half-day >>>>>>>             meeting on Friday August 2 on "Fortran, where are you >>>>>>> going?", >>>>>>>             inviting John Reid and Steve Lionel as speakers. >>>>>> >>>>>> The subject "ITSCJ" should be either "Japan" (vaguely) or >>>>>> "ITSCJ/SC22/Fortran WG" (accurately). >>>>>> HPFPC is not related to WG5.  It would be misleading to record their >>>>>> symposium as a part of the National Activity Report, in this form. >>>>> >>>>> It seems a pity not to record this. 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