From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom8=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Sun Nov 12 01:56:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id D9C2B3589AA; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 01:56:32 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-qk0-f181.google.com (mail-qk0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C1F358385 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 01:56:32 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-qk0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a142so16022767qkb.5 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:56:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stevelionel.com; s=google; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=s+blOExQh3krqeaYxrUUmQnPGsyCcJKvB/3alExyqGU=; b=XJS/6nByenT3NNRImmpy1zzecFICqKHICn8aMzUKmVwY+0/QWzokkb1NYQdCypyY1C bvcfw0ImVuZvcT2UgvHkGTxsVVffx0Et07sOnZORIJM3xw53f/nQZwwOclBejCLjDsFA XqsbsG1eAXkBfrxMtuFICtsArSA9lF6bKdqbw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=s+blOExQh3krqeaYxrUUmQnPGsyCcJKvB/3alExyqGU=; b=t+/QA+U0xlAA/IuG5T/pnZFlW6Dglu9jw2NGgcLdQrcFuI/ECAerNcMANkhBoVVF2a we0Hx/U5P5dCbyw/ruyaYecNtjX522LJLtD66nBO57ehYD9RsEOignUKPt/H4jtF1cSs o0QnbjwzxE/+3RIw84+818QbT7dMas8NBZZ0GPK6GNbAAOCk3H7zm+6ZZWRXfW1olzBi 2Neq4Fmb4BhSgKm4swYLrw/WYHVVJc6B4jZdBYaUb2fF9NH+ercAaKj3I9br6zT8rCxL 3ozukKIRNTPoGImXJ04iRE2M8KCfcNVS/TttACMPNka60jNKgiZSlNrMBmY1l6IJQqjf Knyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6BIzgA88zSLdCTDnXrtDFncMxEF/MVbJHnTZ8Nip0eyFRqec9M 9vwp6P6F2TS6fwqiHz1r2nyK5fbcVFc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZt9AK49jz55VIlTCZbWaLKoGbuoQhcNLV9c55Iqwhoic+Czrvju8yYVJMQ/YB+6H+L8UPGug== X-Received: by 10.55.16.169 with SMTP id 41mr8214994qkq.170.1510448190113; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.137] (pool-71-168-105-188.cncdnh.fast11.myfairpoint.net. [71.168.105.188]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n145sm6587341qke.38.2017.11.11.16.56.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:56:28 -0800 (PST) To: WG5 List From: Steve Lionel Subject: Results of WG5 straw poll X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <4e39d61c-eb6f-3859-a4df-e6a787981a58@stevelionel.com> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 19:56:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to everyone who participated in the recent WG5 straw poll - I received 25 responses between the ISO web site "consultation" and emailed responses. 1. There were no objections to making the three technical changes. 2. There were no objections to submitting a DIS for ballot now. I have to learn how to do that, once Malcolm has the document ready. 3. On the question of calling the in-progress standard "Fortran 2018" instead of "Fortran 2015", the vote was 17 in favor, 5 against and 3 abstains. That is "clear direction", as J3 likes to say. This question received many comments; The majority in favor cited the "perception of Fortran as obsolete" that would be made worse by sticking with the 2015 name.  As several respondents noted, the informal name of the standard has changed multiple times before, so it isn't as if we'd never done this in the past. So... Fortran 2018 it is. (I'll also note that I heard no objections to my suggestion of referring to the next revision as "Fortran 202X", so that we don't encounter this problem the next time.) Steve P.S. I will turn this into a WG5 N-document, including the questions and comments. I'll also write up the name changes for comp.lang.fortran, comp-fortran-90 and the LinkedIn Fortran group. Any others I should know about? The WG5 web site will also reflect the new names.