From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom8=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Wed Jul 6 18:47:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id A42F99EB0EB; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 18:47:12 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org X-Greylist: delayed 692 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at www5.open-std.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:47:11 CEST Received: from mga01.intel.com (mga01.intel.com [192.55.52.88]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43E19DB160 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 18:47:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fmsmga003.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.29]) by fmsmga101.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 06 Jul 2016 09:35:24 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.28,319,1464678000"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="730458911" Received: from fmsmsx107.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.18.124.205]) by FMSMGA003.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 06 Jul 2016 09:35:25 -0700 Received: from fmsmsx120.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.124.208) by fmsmsx107.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.124.205) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.248.2; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 09:35:23 -0700 Received: from fmsmsx102.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.10.252]) by fmsmsx120.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.15.153]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 09:35:23 -0700 From: "Lionel, Steve" To: WG5 Subject: RE: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.5754) Units of measure Thread-Topic: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.5754) Units of measure Thread-Index: AQHR15q3jz5F8PbIz0+a/gKz2tKWaKALkzEQ Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:35:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160619135920.D0F3F358287@www.open-std.org> <20160629112043.BF09F3587AF@www.open-std.org> <20160629123517.185A635828D@www.open-std.org> <20160629190123.72A8035859B@www.open-std.org> <20160702105054.18596358745@www.open-std.org> <20160702202059.B9618358745@www.open-std.org> <20160703085848.B63663584A2@www.open-std.org> <20160705153207.E49A9358343@www.open-std.org> <20160705173722.4977735852E@www.open-std.org> <20160706152553.105A89DB160@www.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20160706152553.105A89DB160@www.open-std.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ctpclassification: CTP_IC x-titus-metadata-40: eyJDYXRlZ29yeUxhYmVscyI6IiIsIk1ldGFkYXRhIjp7Im5zIjoiaHR0cDpcL1wvd3d3LnRpdHVzLmNvbVwvbnNcL0ludGVsMyIsImlkIjoiNjYwNjViY2ItYjBkYy00M2IwLWI1MjYtNmZhNGE0YTVkYzU2IiwicHJvcHMiOlt7Im4iOiJDVFBDbGFzc2lmaWNhdGlvbiIsInZhbHMiOlt7InZhbHVlIjoiQ1RQX0lDIn1dfV19LCJTdWJqZWN0TGFiZWxzIjpbXSwiVE1DVmVyc2lvbiI6IjE1LjkuNi42IiwiVHJ1c3RlZExhYmVsSGFzaCI6ImtCSmF1WWRWaTB5VnozR3NQMkpDWVVkTWhoM1BWSHI5SmxsNFpkXC9jTEZVPSJ9 x-originating-ip: [10.1.200.106] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01D1D782.DCA29D60" MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01D1D782.DCA29D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Van presented his proposal as a tutorial to us at Delft - my notes don't show that we took any kind of vote on it, but there was certainly no enthusiasm for it among the rest of the committee. My own recollection was that I didn't like the particular proposal, that it felt "too F77-like" and I didn't think it would solve the stated problem, but I don't remember details. I think we have spent far too much time over many meetings (and email chains) revisiting "Units of measure" and that nothing more should be done on it, especially turning it into a TS. Frankly, I am tired of this and the repeated attempts to resurrect it make me feel even more negative towards it. Put a stake in it and move on. Steve -----Original Message----- From: j3-bounces@mailman.j3-fortran.org [mailto:j3-bounces@mailman.j3-fortran.org] On Behalf Of David Muxworthy Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:26 AM To: WG5 Subject: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.5754) Units of measure > there is nothing in the minutes re altering the objectives of a TS. My recollection is that there was no enthusiasm for the idea, I accept that decision, but I have no recollection of it being made (Delft or London?). > I would like to complete this within a week, i.e., by 12 July. If you are one of those that voted against the proposal and think that the current draft does not represent your view accurately, please suggest changes before 12 July. It would add weight to the penultimate paragraph to say that there was also a country vote in Delft which went 0 - 3 - 3. 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