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spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <60F9065CF5D0134D9246A193D3906370@namprd11.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 29 Jun 2016 12:35:04.8880 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: e7b8488a-c0cd-4614-aae1-996bfabec247 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN4PR11MB0979 X-OriginatorOrg: cray.com Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk On Jun 29, 2016, at 6:20 AM, John Reid wrote: > WG5, >=20 > Here is a slightly changed draft N2112. A diff file is attached. >=20 > Van asks >=20 > 1. Was the sentiment expressed in the penultimate paragraph that of a sig= nificant fraction of those you asked for their reasons for opposing the pro= ject? >=20 > 2. Did you ask whether my offer to remove the promise to incorporate the > specification into a future revision of the standard made a difference > in their positions? >=20 > For all those that attended the London meeting, I would appreciate your t= houghts on this. >=20 > I think I should perhaps add a paragraph on 2. I think the sentiment was = that it would obviate the whole point of a TS - to define a feature that WG= 5 intended eventually to include in the standard. >=20 I agree with John that this is the operational norm for WG5 and making an e= xception here weakens the norm for other proposals.=20 An additional motivation for a TS is to provide purchase agents with a docu= ment to cite in writing a proposal that has the effect of forcing vendors t= o implement this, independent of whether it will ever be part of the base s= tandard. Even if only one entity is interested in the feature, if its budge= t is sufficient it has the effect of forcing all vendors. Avoiding this si= tuation is a high priority. The implementation costs greatly outweigh the = benefit in this case, and vendors are not awash with free resources for suc= h a project.=20 Cheers, Bill > Cheers, >=20 > John. >=20 >=20 > John Reid wrote: >> Dear all, >>=20 >> I was required by the London meeting to provide a document describing >> the reasons why WG5 did not apply for a new project to develop a TS on >> Units of Measure in Fortran when requested to do so at its 2013 meeting. >>=20 >> Here is a draft. I would like to thank Dan for writing a first draft at >> the Boulder meeting. This was shown to Van and the subgroup heads and >> their comments were taken into account. >>=20 >> The obvious reason for the decision was that 7 people voted "no". This >> paper has to explore why they voted so. Have I got this right? Comments, >> please. >>=20 >> Cheers, >>=20 >> John. >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> J3 mailing list >> J3@mailman.j3-fortran.org >> http://mailman.j3-fortran.org/mailman/listinfo/j3 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > J3 mailing list > J3@mailman.j3-fortran.org > http://mailman.j3-fortran.org/mailman/listinfo/j3 Bill Long = longb@cray.com Fortran Technical Support & voice: 651-6= 05-9024 Bioinformatics Software Development fax: 651-605-9142 Cray Inc./ Cray Plaza, Suite 210/ 380 Jackson St./ St. Paul, MN 55101