From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom8=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Mon Jun 20 15:31:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 7BAD735874C; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:31:26 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org X-Greylist: delayed 3605 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at www5.open-std.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:31:25 CEST Received: from st13p21im-asmtp003.me.com (st13p21im-asmtp003.me.com [17.164.152.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39E0356E70 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:31:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.st13p21im-asmtp003.me.com by st13p21im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) id <0O9200V00LE8P100@st13p21im-asmtp003.me.com> for sc22wg5@open-std.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:30:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (host-78-150-27-33.as13285.net [78.150.27.33]) by st13p21im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0O920080XLF2BX20@st13p21im-asmtp003.me.com> for sc22wg5@open-std.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:30:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-06-20_08:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1606200143 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.5728) Revision of the Standard From: David Muxworthy In-reply-to: <20160619183948.9DF5A358287@www.open-std.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:30:37 +0100 Reply-to: David Muxworthy Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-id: References: <20160619183948.9DF5A358287@www.open-std.org> To: sc22wg5@open-std.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=4d515a; t=1466425840; bh=j56Mjqx0qjPfbCkZirHxX2ZEPvAiU5lxsWfrdrABHI4=; h=Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:From:Date:Message-id:To; b=YD6eLE3Ss3TyTlrRs9CeEHEhJeu4IlfABOBeSJzsCjBaMlD0M7XP7K+D5z6onyiwu YGC9PSJDMJeT7teBQpOr5o5RmImHkBHvSAm9DmXyStzHXLhkArRSWD1hXsFuPkl6LP PiIYhtk4U5sNpDnpmQ+Yv/iCGZGxmEg3NB6js8NTIpAr9A8ZNcr85Frc42PH8G6jiJ INVKl0mNZu2mWl9MWXD9nlzU78N0qXI2/91LE3nqWELg019MQrSpUF2VKvx3nEtszh 1NqVtzROD9HkfrKhbHF3v+ecv+egFK9uyN9lkJgmCOL36vX2TQ7k3yax+wSbTcwtW3 w9yUN/n0DqhGw== Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk On 19 Jun 2016, at 19:39, John Reid wrote: > "In JTC 1, NP ballot is not required for the revision or amendment of an > existing standard or Technical Specification, provided that the > committee passes a resolution containing the following elements: > 1) target dates; > 2) confirmation of scope (including whether it will be expanded, in > which case the process for new proposals shall apply); and > 3) project editor(s) if already assigned." > > In turn this means that I just have to ask SC22 to pass the relevant > resolution in September. I would still like to show SC22 our latest > draft, but I don't think a ballot is needed. Does everyone agree with > this? If so, item 5.1 of the minutes should be amended. I agree. I am afraid the draft minutes are incorrect anyway. It was the revised ISO directives, not the JTC1 ones, that were being referenced at the meeting, without taking account of the JTC1 Supplement. The 2016 JTC1 Supplement has not yet been published but it appears from the draft that the words quoted above (section 2.3.1) are unchanged. The simplest fix to the minutes would be to delete the relevant sentence, and to split the paragraph into two, making 5.1 read: "John Reid said he intended to submit a new work item proposal for the revised standard at the SC22 meeting in September. Revised ISO Directives would require wording and format changes in the document." David