From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom8=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Mon Jun 20 11:13:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 054653587A8; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:13:36 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail-pf0-f174.google.com (mail-pf0-f174.google.com [209.85.192.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B9E356D1D for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:13:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pf0-f174.google.com with SMTP id t190so52415782pfb.3 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:13:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=edogawa-u-ac-jp.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:references:to:from:organization:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sZctxoOuY3qrKhzS/BJLRpuP55Xc8+rIIGKlgTEeyuw=; b=045Ozn1QdGF9tr870FlQntfmtZtQZSAP0Q+S38lJ7hyaAM+ECOzYPnSQxW1hrX465I MQvoZpWo03ovDYcGjyAg7aB+0eZ/8pCVFZI1EP8c4thvkSPp5q0/rLnfVCzkPtkEbIMt LssiioBXDooMv1jNhbJbCKE0OGMhwWdPRIx6FRKlN89VfwenHWtEIJxf5ChKAwLuDloG tMP9dNDXXagZfrduUJjjDbq2GNL8lx/PJyvh3izcZlzhKbBW4ceRcC8LemtWYqzlnDoJ 1zVRQ9yHD1e5g1yzpAYvu5oEoyctT4g8Zk5AC20EWeBYgb19aNXfusrXK9yiq+1yQN07 B78w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:to:from:organization :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sZctxoOuY3qrKhzS/BJLRpuP55Xc8+rIIGKlgTEeyuw=; b=kXwMDMDHvRQRMrd59qHT/YGyGhGcaQ3b3gXtciN+SZQ95TKJS0jB7wHaS4RuuYxwvE ZcYwRP+Rij03B0R9xs9+bSBvFZ2XkLhbLiSpEI8LrmmLxogO9U0HnmtmJbD8t8D1G4+c Xmwd/9RZhpck34Z6wESzFAVIgUR5YEUZlmwPNxZq9+frNQXiUCaHiv3XT7QKAn2pScnn iTE4Bd3x0A217qeZFWD1D3Vr0yY9/UrmvnNzuZFCFhplkG0ylBPL85rzi0Y++i9wZXk9 FCdID1AyZwaD1giLxa94SkOJrAZ6csfZOB73lwcLIsMR8ApFR3vDhL0704Apx9hry1Ca cLEg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIDzR3QEPhdZ9CeVG1iIhop/EsDJx8HL8QdsfBAr0TYPl9O2uJaBHU8qqi673YbXw== X-Received: by 10.98.52.65 with SMTP id b62mr20890329pfa.40.1466414006766; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [210.235.142.155] (std142155.dhcp.edogawa-u.ac.jp. [210.235.142.155]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 69sm46518365pfc.90.2016.06.20.02.13.23 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: (SC22WG5.5728) Revision of the Standard References: <20160619183948.9DF5A358287@www.open-std.org> To: WG5 From: TAKATA Masayuki Organization: Edogawa University Message-ID: <46c20b14-4f74-03bd-10b9-1c34a4720ded@edogawa-u.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:13:19 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160619183948.9DF5A358287@www.open-std.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I agree with John. I checked with the secretariat in Japan, and found that: - the text John mentioned is in 2.3.1 of the "current" JTC 1 Supplement, issued in 2014. - the new version's ballot has closed on 2016-05-12, and passed by 15-0-15. (JTC1-N13001) - there were comments from 3 countries, but none of them affects 2.3.1. Cheers, Makki On 2016/06/20 3:39, John Reid wrote: > Dear all, > > The new directives say: > > "2.9 Maintenance of deliverables > The procedures for the maintenance of deliverables are given in the respective > Supplements to the ISO/IEC Directives. > > 2.10 Technical corrigenda and amendments > 2.10.1 General > A published International Standard may subsequently be modified by the publication of > — a technical corrigendum; > — an amendment; or > — a revision (as part of the maintenance procedure in 2.9)." > > This means that we need to look in the JTC1 supplement for the rules. It says > > "In JTC 1, NP ballot is not required for the revision or amendment of an existing > standard or Technical Specification, provided that the committee passes a resolution > containing the following elements: > 1) target dates; > 2) confirmation of scope (including whether it will be expanded, in which case > the process for new proposals shall apply); and > 3) project editor(s) if already assigned." > > In turn this means that I just have to ask SC22 to pass the relevant resolution in > September. I would still like to show SC22 our latest draft, but I don't think a > ballot is needed. Does everyone agree with this? If so, item 5.1 of the minutes should > be amended. > > Best wishes, > > John. -- Takata, Masayuki: Professor Edogawa University, 474 Komaki, Nagareyama, Chiba 270-0198 Japan phone: +81-4-7152-9957(direct) fax: +81-4-7154-2490(shared) email: takata@edogawa-u.ac.jp