From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom8=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Thu Mar 17 00:15:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 9E941358784; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 00:15:46 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF59035711F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 00:15:41 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1458170138; bh=YGcO8ZSqilf9n0kG3Gvfw756mWmsRSCB/xn/xB8+rMs=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=pObAl4Meb+tdanZlizJ5MPoFx8aQkAZXeOx6sudXjPfrXlWrlirk+6XjhW1ko2Lt/grzJamXfe68NYJxVmbUOjSXmaTbE7xEbj+Uvlou/Ib/YZUJKE4AD0Ktw0/xcJCYHE8WTt4PpPkGCz9+/mQTFCiz92BgFi2dlI8rbaoI3x5FmKNT6PrAhxR1jV19xUdjsYlaRpxEiIaoOc3QwHdDdTLXzquFxJ+kiIyhLeGn/X9SmeNryVjRiyK69dYQ2iZPV0BrFArS+a7K4thMq60O2LyKHO3TRdNDkmUiA/vJUKUBOIp6+riyClyS6Z2gr05ES4ditJGAPWN07FCGh961cQ== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2016 23:15:38 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2016 23:12:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.115] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2016 23:12:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp224.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2016 23:12:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 319248.60676.bm@smtp224.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-YMail-OSG: rEs8o2AVM1kab.451yU42ICw669RyhpZ3Zu4XNNKH3PqvHd y20BKdvK.gvoTHyXr7EOmqeALvUXrJLQQpi8IRr4gRUEXCFlE4hC9fIJs8O8 a8SSYQyYrCszf7d_qE0RykjaB5KUQyQpM1Dgpq_vEGdM39eeYnTvVpH9fU1c vlhzax2d8CKbDWnqGsngxAdjveOORZ5bASQa5i7lnt2_b8jSSsuMDLGfubDC rmqaKZcCXGjvJNXn23nJAvr._CJ.HuoDFxZcyRJFNV2D9_1OAWPJWR5gCqOZ ehDongY3oXn5sncqfORK1Giflu_J1mZiOYT4tLQvgThqxWjC46f88gBgTQpw bfVt.KLxGMwkX5L7XLezaTyFc9XF8ycXagYpdsPBIoILNdA3rMfgAh9bECEH 1XaGQT4UT6maiHwz7BOcEFuoEU2VFY9wSFF0SjiMDcjWd3YP54uCkJFcZdwm jpCMzrz6BChxxxC.jx29stm_XjYv5syYVK4Afipmce31V1uSbI08dtAN47GD a82KIOuKmnF74Ji5U2eVkhLVgvi8uBkg7QE9g6xf_Vg_8urMZtfgVCnr9AL3 xhOOeqHZfZrjqWgU4tZre_bqGuNwXcm_A.YBm1_OadCXbt4uHh47f74GIDe9 pqJrCNaXT9SK93QeWDA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: x0SCrfmswBCvW0SeKOpOOY7IMgY- Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CD906519-660D-4544-9558-0E82B4DE6E22" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.5687) Slashdot video on Fortran From: Damian Rouson In-Reply-To: <20160316160041.076C1357127@www.open-std.org> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:12:40 -0700 Cc: WG5 Message-Id: References: <20160316160041.076C1357127@www.open-std.org> To: fortran standards email list for J3 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_CD906519-660D-4544-9558-0E82B4DE6E22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Mar 16, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Lionel, Steve = wrote: >=20 > I might have some quibbles with his advice, and I think he might = mislead viewers into thinking the Intel QuickWin feature is standard, = but it=E2=80=99s surprisingly good overall.=20 > =20 > http://insidehpc.com/2016/03/fortran/ = > =20 One major disappointment is that he relies on the Fortran wiki=E2=80=99s = compiler support table at http://fortranwiki.org/fortran/show/Fortran+2008+status = which is out-of-date and therefore makes compiler compliance look worse = than it is. The listed versions of the Cray, GNU, Intel, IBM, and PGI = compilers are 2-4 years old. The listed NAG compiler version is over 1 = year old. And g95 arguably could be deleted now that it has been = dormant for several years.=20 Anyone can edit the Fortran wiki so I just replaced an erroneous link = near the top of the page so that it now points to the Chivers and = Sleightholme survey: = http://www.fortranplus.co.uk/resources/fortran_2003_2008_compiler_support.= pdf = I think the contents of the wiki page should be deleted altogether = except for citing the latter link or its updated equivalent at any given = time. I=E2=80=99ll take this step shortly unless anyone protests or = compiler developers indicate that they intend to keep the wiki = up-to-date. Thoughts? Damian= --Apple-Mail=_CD906519-660D-4544-9558-0E82B4DE6E22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Mar 16, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Lionel, Steve <steve.lionel@intel.com> wrote:

I might have some quibbles with his advice, and I = think he might mislead viewers into thinking the Intel QuickWin feature = is standard, but it=E2=80=99s surprisingly good overall. 
 
 

One major disappointment is that he relies on the = Fortran wiki=E2=80=99s compiler support table at

http://fortranwiki.org/fortran/show/Fortran+2008+status

which is out-of-date and therefore = makes compiler compliance look worse than it is. The listed versions of = the Cray, GNU, Intel, IBM, and PGI compilers are 2-4 years old. The = listed NAG compiler version is over 1 year old.  And g95 arguably = could be deleted now that it has been dormant for several = years. 

Anyone can edit the = Fortran wiki so I just replaced an erroneous link near the top of the = page so that it now points to the Chivers and Sleightholme = survey:


I think the = contents of the wiki page should be deleted altogether except for citing = the latter link or its updated equivalent at any given time. =  I=E2=80=99ll take this step shortly unless anyone protests or = compiler developers indicate that they intend to keep the wiki = up-to-date.

Thoughts?

Damian
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