From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom8=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Mon Jan 12 18:18:48 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id A880C35849D; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:18:48 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from ppsw-51.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw-51.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.151]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B763581F2 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:18:42 +0100 (CET) X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Received: from hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.51]:50228) by ppsw-51.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.157]:25) with esmtpa (EXTERNAL:nmm1) id 1YAidV-0002i1-Yy (Exim 4.82_3-c0e5623) (return-path ); Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:18:41 +0000 Received: from prayer by hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk (hermes.cam.ac.uk) with local (PRAYER:nmm1) id 1YAidV-0000OO-PT (Exim 4.72) (return-path ); Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:18:41 +0000 Received: from [31.185.153.131] by old-webmail.hermes.cam.ac.uk with HTTP (Prayer-1.3.5); 12 Jan 2015 17:18:41 +0000 Date: 12 Jan 2015 17:18:41 +0000 From: "N.M. Maclaren" To: WG5 , John Reid Subject: WG5 straw ballot on N2040 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20150112162958.4180B35714E@www.open-std.org> References: <20150112162958.4180B35714E@www.open-std.org> X-Mailer: Prayer v1.3.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 12 2015, John Reid wrote: >Please answer the following question "Is N2040 ready for forwarding to >SC22 as the DTS?" in one of these ways. 3) No, for the reasons given in N2038, N2013 and other votes. I need to reiterate that neither response in N2039 even addresses my comments. I believe that incorporating the TS into the main standard will cause serious harm to Fortran, because the (semantic) difficulties cannot be resolved (let alone specified unambiguously) in the time available. Indeed, it is not clear even that they ARE soluble, because this TS is specifying a feature that is beyond the state of the art, and has been for half a century. I would be prepared to change my vote to abstain if the decision to incorporate it were reversed. Regards, Nick Maclaren.