From owner-sc22wg5+sc22wg5-dom8=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Fri Sep 12 17:25:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 8035D3586E3; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:25:53 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from ppsw-52.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw-52.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.152]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33081357279 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:25:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Received: from hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.51]:60924) by ppsw-52.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.159]:25) with esmtpa (EXTERNAL:nmm1) id 1XSSjN-0003xo-Dk (Exim 4.82_3-c0e5623) for sc22wg5@open-std.org (return-path ); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:25:49 +0100 Received: from prayer by hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk (hermes.cam.ac.uk) with local (PRAYER:nmm1) id 1XSSjN-0001zz-56 (Exim 4.72) for sc22wg5@open-std.org (return-path ); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:25:49 +0100 Received: from [84.93.77.244] by old-webmail.hermes.cam.ac.uk with HTTP (Prayer-1.3.5); 12 Sep 2014 16:25:49 +0100 Date: 12 Sep 2014 16:25:49 +0100 From: "N.M. Maclaren" To: WG5 Subject: Re: Ballot on draft TS Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <20140822142737.F18823571C4@www.open-std.org> X-Mailer: Prayer v1.3.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk Sorry - I realise that I had omitted something. This is a minor change to my vote. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Please answer the following question "Is N2027 ready for forwarding to SC22 as the DTS?" in one of these ways. 1) Yes. 2) Yes, but I recommend the following changes. 3) No, for the following reasons. 4) Abstain. No. There is still too much substantive discussion of and uncertainty about the required semantics, and associated details, including comments on previous drafts that have not been addressed. The image failure feature is something which has never been standardised successfully in any programming language or portable library. Many of the examples (specifically those using EVENT_QUERY, but also some of those using the atomic subroutines) depend on semantics that are not derivable from the normative text. That might be acceptable for a free-standing TS, but the current plan is that this TS is due to be integrated into the standard without waiting for user experience. There may also be problems of detail, but I have not had time to check for them.