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Subject: Re: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4852) WG5 letter ballot on N1947
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On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 10:21 +0000, John Reid wrote:
> WG5,
> 
> Now that the interps ballot is out of the way, I would like to start a 
> ballot on N1947, the draft annex to the TR on Guidance to Avoiding 
> Vulnerabilities in Programming Languages. N1947 is the result of 
> off-line work by J3 members during its October meeting.


I wouldn't characterize the work as "off-line".  J3 spent several hours
in subgroup, and at least another hour in plenary, during the October
meeting alone.  This black hole has an enormously long history for such
a frivolous bit of nonsense that ought to be in textbooks, not a
nonnormative annex to an irrelevant international standard.  It is
mentioned in 37 WG5 .txt files, four WG5 .pdf files, and 27 J3 .txt
files, going back to 2006.

We've spent seven years fiddling with this, and now we're told that
there isn't time to do anything substantial regarding our primary
mission.


                                        ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG5 N1953
                                                     
                     WG5 letter ballot on N1947

                    John Reid, 10 December 2012

This is a WG5 letter ballot on N1947, draft Fortran Annex to TR 24772, 
Guidance to Avoiding Vulnerabilities in Programming Languages through 
Language Selection and Use.

Please answer the following question "Is N1947 ready for forwarding to
WG23 
as the Fortran Annex to TR 24772?" in one of these ways. 

1) Yes.
2) Yes, but I recommend the following changes. 
3) No, for the following reasons.
4) Abstain.

This is an individual vote. Please send your vote to
sc22wg5@open-std.org 
to arrive by 9 a.m. (UK time) on 7 January 2013. 

I don't want to vote "yes" because it would just encourage a repetition
of this nonsense.

I don't want to vote "no" because I'm expected to offer constructive
criticism, but I can't bear to read it again.

So I abstain.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John.
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