From owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Thu May 5 16:13:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www2.open-std.org Received: by www2.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 57DB9C178DC; Thu, 5 May 2011 16:13:44 +0200 (CET DST) X-Original-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from engine19-1277-1.icritical.com (engine19-1277-1.icritical.com [93.95.13.253]) by www2.open-std.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2993C178DA for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 16:13:42 +0200 (CET DST) Received: (qmail 4319 invoked from network); 5 May 2011 14:13:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by engine19-1277-1.icritical.com with SMTP; 5 May 2011 14:13:39 -0000 Received: from engine19-1277-1.icritical.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (engine19-1277-1.icritical.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 04249-03 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 15:13:37 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 4304 invoked by uid 599); 5 May 2011 14:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO exchhub03.rl.ac.uk) (130.246.236.11) by engine19-1277-1.icritical.com (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:13:37 +0100 Received: from jkr.cse.rl.ac.uk (130.246.9.202) by exchsmtp.stfc.ac.uk (130.246.236.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.289.1; Thu, 5 May 2011 15:13:37 +0100 Received: from jkr.cse.rl.ac.uk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jkr.cse.rl.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30BA560D5; Thu, 5 May 2011 15:13:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4DC2B091.2010601@stfc.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 15:13:37 +0100 From: John Reid Reply-To: Organization: Rutherford Appleton Laboratory User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090908 Fedora/1.1.18-1.fc10 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WG5 Subject: PDTR on Further Interoperability References: <20110331154109.5070CC178E4@www2.open-std.org> <20110401003328.8B70BC178DA@www2.open-std.org> <20110401132710.09AE6C178DA@www2.open-std.org> <20110404114630.48DD0C178DC@www2.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20110404114630.48DD0C178DC@www2.open-std.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030001010407040808070402" Received-SPF: None (EXCHHUB03.fed.cclrc.ac.uk: John.Reid@stfc.ac.uk does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-Virus-Scanned: by iCritical at engine19-1277-1.icritical.com Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk --------------030001010407040808070402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WG5, This is what I said on 4 April re the TR on Further Interoperability: > > Well, to avoid eventual cancellation, we must move faster. Here is an > alternative plan and I think it is better. > > 1. Bill creates a new draft by the end of this week that includes all > the items that do not need discussion. > > 2. The interop. email group takes ownership for 3 weeks to hash out the > other issues and create a new pdf by 1 May. > > 3. We have a 3-week informal WG5 ballot on whether this new version is > ready for PDTR ballot. > > 4. Bill creates a further new draft based on comments and the interop. > email group checks it. > > 5a. If we have reached consensus, the PDTR ballot starts in late May or > very early in June. The goal would be to get enough PDTR feedback before > the meeting to create a tentative DTR for issue after the PDTR ballot > finishes. > > 5b. Otherwise, we work hard before and at the meeting to reach consensus > and start the PDTR ballot soon afterwards. The "base document" at this > point will be the version created in step 4. Unfortunately, May 1st has passed and we are not ready for a 3-week informal WG5 ballot (item 3). Bill and I think that we need to abandon this plan. Instead, Bill proposes a new plan: 1. By 13 May, Bill constructs a new draft that includes all the edits arising from our ballot that he believes are likely to achieve consensus. 2. The new draft is reviewed by the interop. email group until the end of May. 3. By the beginning of June, Bill constructs a draft for use as the base document at the Garching meeting. 4. The PDTR is constructed and approved during the meeting and the PDTR formal starts soon afterwards. Note that this is essentially the fallback position in 5b above. It is very important to create the PDTR by the end of the Garching meeting. Without this, eventual cancellation of the project is quite likely. No further extensions are allowed. I need to revise the announcement and agenda for the Garching meeting, since the primary objective is now the construction of the PDTR rather than reviewing the PDTR Ballot comments. New documents are attached. John. -- Scanned by iCritical. --------------030001010407040808070402 Content-Type: text/plain; name="N1850.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="N1850.txt" ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG5 N1850 Announcement Meeting of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG5 June 27 - July 01, 2011 Leibniz Supercomputing Centre (LRZ), Boltzmannstr. 1 85748 Garching/Munich, Germany The next meeting of WG5 will be held in Garching, Germany. The local organizer is Reinhold Bader, Email: Bader@lrz.de Phone: ++49 89 35831 8825 (voicemail active). 1. OBJECTIVES OF THE MEETING The major items of business for this meeting will be: A. Construct the PDTR draft TR on Further Interoperability with C. B. Consider the technical content of the proposed TR on Further Coarray Features. C. Consider the defect reports (interpretations) in J3-006. D. Construct a draft Fortran annex for the TR on "Guidance to Avoiding Vulnerabilities in Programming Languages through Language Selection and Use". E. Consider whether Fortran should have a math functions module, as an optional annex or an optional separate part. 2. ORGANIZATION OF THE MEETING At the start on Monday, this will be a normal WG5 meeting. For the rest of the time, the meeting will be a joint meeting with J3. Much of the time will be spent in sub-groups of all the delegates present. There will also be plenary sessions, either of WG5 with John Reid in the chair or of J3 with Dan Nagle in the chair. The exact timings will be agreed between John and Dan from day to day. Closing business for both J3 and WG5 will be on Friday. Delegates should expect important business to continue until 1700 on Friday. 3. DOCUMENTS It is essential that all delegates have access to all WG5 documents from N1794 onwards. 4. LOCAL ARRANGEMENTS The local host has prepared a separate document (N1840) with details of local arrangements. 5. REGISTRATION Heads of delegations are reminded that the names of those who will be in their delegations should be communicated to both the Convener and the hosts no later than one month before the start of the meeting. 6. FURTHER INFORMATION Technical information is available via WG5's own web pages (http://www.nag.co.uk/sc22wg5/), or may be obtained directly from the Convener: John Reid, Atlas Centre, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Didcot, Oxfordshire OX11 0QX England Tel: 01235 44 6493 Fax: 01235 44 6626 email: John.Reid@stfc.ac.uk --------------030001010407040808070402 Content-Type: text/plain; name="N1851.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="N1851.txt" ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG5 N1851 Preliminary Agenda Meeting of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG5 June 27 - July 1, 2011 Leibniz Supercomputing Centre (LRZ), Boltzmannstr. 1 85748 Garching/Munich, Germany Monday, June 27 0900 - 1800 (Joint WG5/J3) Tuesday, June 28 0900 - 1800 (Joint WG5/J3) Wednesday, June 29 0900 - 1800 (Joint WG5/J3) Thursday, June 30 0900 - 1800 (Joint WG5/J3) Friday, July 1 0900 - 1700 (Joint WG5/J3) N.B. During the meeting, some sessions will be of WG5 with John Reid in the chair and some sessions will be of J3 with Dan Nagle in the chair. Delegates should expect important business to continue until 1700 on Friday. 1. Opening of the Meeting: 9:00 am, June 27, 2011 2. Opening business 2.1 Introductory remarks from the Convener 2.2 Welcome from the Host 2.3 Local arrangements 2.4 Appointments for this meeting 2.5 Adoption of the Agenda 2.6 Approval of the Minutes of the Las Vegas 2010 Meeting [N1810] 3. Matters arising from the minutes 4. Status of Las Vegas 2010 Resolutions [N1811] 5. Reports 5.1 SC22 Matters (Convener) 5.2 National Activity Reports (Heads of Delegations) 5.3 Report from Primary Development Body (NCITS/J3 Chair) 5.4 Reports from other Development Bodies (Editors/Heads) 5.5 Liaison Reports: NCITS/J11 (C): Craig Rasmussen MPI: Craig Rasmussen UPC: Dan Nagle IFIP/WG2.5: Van Snyder OpenMp: Matthijs van Waveren WG23 (Vulnerabilities): Dan Nagle 6. Construct the PDTR draft TR on Further Interoperability with C. 7. Consider the technical content of the proposed TR on Further Coarray Features. 8. Consider the Fortran defect reports (interpretations) in J3-006. 9. Construct a draft Fortran annex for the TR on "Guidance to Avoiding Vulnerabilities in Programming Languages through Language Selection and Use". 10. Consider whether Fortran should have a math functions module, as an optional annex or an optional separate part. 11. WG5 Business and Strategic Plans 11.1 Goals for 2011-2014 12. Closing Business 12.1 Future meetings 12.2 Any other business 13. Adoption of Resolutions 14. Adjournment: 1700, July 1, 2011 --------------030001010407040808070402--