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On 12/07/10 15:43, N.M. Maclaren wrote:
> The main one is 10-235r1, which I do NOT feel has been properly
> considered, and is as problematic as the TYPE(*) issue and even more
> pervasive.  Unfortunately, explaining why (beyond what is in 10-235r1,
> which clearly wasn't adequate) is non-trivial. 
I do not find an r1 of this paper on the J3 server?

I took a quick look at 235. It has some good points, but I must say that 
any paper that begins with "we need to start from scratch", i.e., undo 
everything else others have done, and implement your favorite approach, 
does not get sympathy from me regardless of technical content (which has 
some good points but also a lot of exaggerations). There are things I 
would like to change in the proposal, from scratch (e.g., separate  
type/kind from the rank descriptors). I have not put them down as 
comments because we voted many times, straw votes, took opinions from 
people, tried to arrive at a consensus. A committee cannot function with 
everyone just drumming their own drum, every meeting, to the same tune. 
That said, just vote No, if that is what you want. In the end, 
everyone's work will be wasted, including yours.

Best,
Aleks

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