From owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Tue Mar 2 00:37:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www2.open-std.org Received: by www2.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id E3ECCC3BA24; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:37:18 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org X-Greylist: delayed 372 seconds by postgrey-1.18 at www2.open-std.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:37:18 CET Received: from snt0-omc3-s5.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s5.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.144]) by www2.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C140C3BA1E for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:37:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from SNT111-DS18 ([65.55.90.136]) by snt0-omc3-s5.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:31:02 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [71.131.180.173] X-Originating-Email: [lpmeissner@msn.com] Message-ID: From: "Loren P Meissner" To: , "'fortran standards email list for J3'" Cc: References: <20100301174456.8A65CC178D9@www2.open-std.org> <20100301181556.45D4FC178D9@www2.open-std.org> <4B8C47B9.8030904@cray.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8C47B9.8030904@cray.com> Subject: RE: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4198) RE: 43 Fortran compilers Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:30:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFKjEo9HlP1qNYlCG4aEVxgVm1twwJ5Ds8vAeg7I6ICG2dn5A== Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2010 23:31:03.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[42764D50:01CAB997] Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk There was some Fortran language research going on at Univ of Waterloo (in Ont, Canada) by 1974. My copy of papers from JPL/SIGNUM Fortran Preprocessor Workshop (Nov 1974) [which was largely motivated by Fortran response to the "structured programming" fad] includes a one-page paper "Designing a portable preprocessor" by M Malcolm and L Rogers of Waterloo. It mentions "Altran translator and run-time support software are written in portable Fortran except for some M6 macro calls . The M6 macro processor is written in portable Fortran ." - Was this "portable Fortran" the same as "Waterloo Fortran"? Loren P Meissner (Have you ever imagined a world without hypothetical situations?) -----Original Message----- From: j3-bounces@j3-fortran.org [mailto:j3-bounces@j3-fortran.org] On Behalf Of Bill Long Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:03 PM To: fortran standards email list for J3 Cc: sc22wg5@open-std.org Subject: Re: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4198) RE: 43 Fortran compilers Ian D Chivers wrote: > I would be interested in knowing what they were. > > I worked at Imperial College from 1978-1986 On CDC kit mainly (6400, > 6500, 170, 174) and we had > > CDC Fortran > Minnesota Fortran Indeed, M77. I looked at the manual and found that, in 1980, M77 had the radical extension of A .op. B where op was and, or, xor, ... and A and B were numeric type variables, with the operations bitwise. Only 30 years ago. Maybe this idea needs a bit more time to mature. :) Cheers Bill > > As the main two supported Fortran compilers. > > I also vaguely remember a Waterloo Fortran. > > There was a CDC 1700 and I think that had a Fortran compiler. > Would that have counted as another compiler? > > Cheers > > ian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: j3-bounces@j3-fortran.org [mailto:j3-bounces@j3-fortran.org] On > Behalf Of David Muxworthy > Sent: 01 March 2010 17:47 > To: sc22wg5@open-std.org > Subject: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4197) 43 Fortran compilers > > One or two people seemed surprised when I said at the WG5 meeting that > there were 43 Fortran compilers in the early 1960s. The figure was > taken from Oswald, H. (1964), 'The various Fortrans', Datamation vol > 10 (August), pp 25-29. Oswald was reviewing 16 different Fortran > systems. I think I also said outside the meeting that the first > Fortran on a non-IBM machine was in 1961-2. In fact it was in 1960 on > a Philco 2000, but not called Fortran. The first non-IBM 'Fortran' > was on a Univac SS80 in 1961. > > David > _______________________________________________ > J3 mailing list > J3@j3-fortran.org > http://j3-fortran.org/mailman/listinfo/j3 > > _______________________________________________ > J3 mailing list > J3@j3-fortran.org > http://j3-fortran.org/mailman/listinfo/j3 -- Bill Long longb@cray.com Fortran Technical Support & voice: 651-605-9024 Bioinformatics Software Development fax: 651-605-9142 Cray Inc./Cray Plaza, Suite 210/380 Jackson St./St. Paul, MN 55101 _______________________________________________ J3 mailing list J3@j3-fortran.org http://j3-fortran.org/mailman/listinfo/j3