From owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Thu Aug 6 05:16:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom8 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom8@www2.open-std.org Received: by www2.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 11859C178E3; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:16:35 +0200 (CET DST) X-Original-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org X-Greylist: delayed 366 seconds by postgrey-1.18 at www2.open-std.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 05:16:33 CET DST Received: from mail1.cray.com (mail1.cray.com [136.162.0.111]) by www2.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C19C178E1 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:16:33 +0200 (CET DST) Received: from beaver.us.cray.com (beaver.us.cray.com [172.30.74.51]) by mail1.cray.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/gw-5323) with ESMTP id n763ANmL013548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:10:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from CFEXFE01.us.cray.com (CFEXFE01.americas.cray.com [172.30.74.93]) by beaver.us.cray.com (8.13.8/8.13.3/hub-5273) with ESMTP id n763AMNC026356; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:10:22 -0500 Received: from bill-longs-macbook-pro.local ([192.168.239.7]) by CFEXFE01.us.cray.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:10:21 -0500 Message-ID: <4A7A49CF.1070708@cray.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:11:11 -0500 From: Bill Long Reply-To: longb@cray.com Organization: Cray Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fortran standards email list for J3 Cc: WG5 Subject: Re: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.4070) [ukfortran] Comments on the draft standard References: <20090805103016.83EAFC178E1@www2.open-std.org> <20090806025207.E3303C178E1@www2.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20090806025207.E3303C178E1@www2.open-std.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2009 03:10:21.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F33DC10:01CA1643] X-Cray-VirusStatus: clean Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk Malcolm Cohen wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have an editorial paper in the works that, among fixing other glitches, > attempts to fix the problems noted by Richard Cook as per N1790. This will be a > J3 paper (not a WG5 one), and I hope to have it ready before the meeting. > > The change he suggests to 1.1 includes moving the following text from "1.1 > Scope" to the Introduction: > > "The second part, ISO/IEC 1539-2, defines additional facilities for the > manipulation of character strings of variable length; this has been largely > subsumed by allocatable characters with deferred length parameters. > The third part, ISO/IEC 1539-3, defines a standard conditional compilation > facility for Fortran. A processor conforming to part 1 need not conform to > ISO/IEC 1539-2 or ISO/IEC 1539-3; however, conformance to either > assumes conformance to this part." Is the last sentence still true? I assume Parts 2 and 3 contain some statement that conformance to those parts assumes conformance to Part 1, but when these were written, it was a different Part 1. Does the wording above imply that an implementation of Part 2, for example, is suddenly no longer conforming until it is also conforming to f2008 Part 1?. Independent of the issues above, I'm perfectly happy deleting the whole paragraph. Cheers, Bill > > While this witter has historical relevance, it is entirely unnecessary, as > - the other parts stand on their own, and whatever THEY say about > what conformance to themselves means has effect, not this; > - not saying anything in part 1 means conformance to part 1 means > conformance to part 1, not parts 1,2,3; > - the bit about part 2 itself plays down the importance of part 2, so why > bother mentioning it? > > Anyway, I'd be perfectly happy to delete this witter, but if someone else thinks > it is valuable, I will propose moving it to the Introduction instead, maybe with > some rewording to make it fit. > > Comments anyone? > > Cheers, -- Bill Long longb@cray.com Fortran Technical Support & voice: 651-605-9024 Bioinformatics Software Development fax: 651-605-9142 Cray Inc., 1340 Mendota Heights Rd., Mendota Heights, MN, 55120