From owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Fri Jan 23 20:44:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom7 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom7@www2.open-std.org Received: by www2.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id B147CCA5FED; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:44:50 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail1.cray.com (mail1.cray.com [136.162.0.111]) by www2.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83983CA5FE6 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:44:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from beaver.us.cray.com (beaver.us.cray.com [172.30.74.51]) by mail1.cray.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/gw-5323) with ESMTP id n0NJik6e027893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:44:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from CFEXFE01.us.cray.com (cfexfe01.us.cray.com [172.30.74.93]) by beaver.us.cray.com (8.13.8/8.13.3/hub-5273) with ESMTP id n0NJijgA023043; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:44:45 -0600 Received: from mh-dhcp-172-31-16-180.us.cray.com ([172.31.16.180]) by CFEXFE01.us.cray.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:44:45 -0600 Message-ID: <497A1EDE.5000100@cray.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:47:42 -0600 From: Bill Long Reply-To: longb@cray.com Organization: Cray Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fortran standards email list for J3 Cc: WG5 Subject: Re: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.3908) [ukfortran] [MPI3 Fortran] [MPI3 Fortran] MPI non-blocking transfers References: <20090122100652.C31E9CA3434@www2.open-std.org> <4978A8A0.8090407@cray.com> <20090122175730.8BA1BCA3439@www2.open-std.org> <4978C20F.2070207@cray.com> <20090122214202.3AB89CA5FE6@www2.open-std.org> <20090122221841.2ACCACA5FE6@www2.open-std.org> <20090123114641.70EA1CA5FED@www2.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20090123114641.70EA1CA5FED@www2.open-std.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2009 19:44:45.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B01C660:01C97D93] X-Cray-VirusStatus: clean Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk N.M. Maclaren wrote: > > Unless this one is resolved, the current situation will continue, and users > who have problems will quite rightly claim that the reason is that Fortran > is an inadequate language. That is a pity. > > While I agree that we should make the effort to find a solution for MPI users (Cray probably has the highest representation of them), I would not go as far as saying that the lack thereof makes Fortran an "inadequate language". After all, Fortran 2008 has a much better way of doing parallel programming than MPI. In that sense, it is a "superior language". Cheers, Bill -- Bill Long longb@cray.com Fortran Technical Support & voice: 651-605-9024 Bioinformatics Software Development fax: 651-605-9142 Cray Inc., 1340 Mendota Heights Rd., Mendota Heights, MN, 55120