From owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Tue Dec 9 18:10:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-dom7 Delivered-To: sc22wg5-dom7@www2.open-std.org Received: by www2.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 1EB5DCA343D; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:10:08 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from mail1.cray.com (mail1.cray.com [136.162.0.111]) by www2.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41A4CA3439 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:10:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from beaver.us.cray.com (beaver.us.cray.com [172.30.74.51]) by mail1.cray.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/gw-5323) with ESMTP id mB9HA3B0014717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:10:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from CFEXFE01.us.cray.com (cfexfe01.us.cray.com [172.30.74.93]) by beaver.us.cray.com (8.13.8/8.13.3/hub-5273) with ESMTP id mB9HA2A1010273; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:10:02 -0600 Received: from mh-dhcp-172-31-16-160.us.cray.com ([172.31.16.160]) by CFEXFE01.us.cray.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:10:02 -0600 Message-ID: <493EA6ED.9080104@cray.com> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:12:13 -0600 From: Bill Long Reply-To: longb@cray.com Organization: Cray Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fortran standards email list for J3 Cc: sc22wg5@open-std.org Subject: Re: (j3.2006) (SC22WG5.3786) [ukfortran] Ballot on the technical content of the TR References: <20081127193527.EF00DC178D9@www2.open-std.org> <20081208024650.76234C4596C@www2.open-std.org> <20081208154207.B50ABC178E0@www2.open-std.org> <493DDCA3.3050104@sun.com> <20081209044540.E9F0AC178E5@www2.open-std.org> <493E0084.1020206@sun.com> <20081209063036.65499CA343D@www2.open-std.org> <20081209114032.1E486C178D6@www2.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20081209114032.1E486C178D6@www2.open-std.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2008 17:10:02.0431 (UTC) FILETIME=[F94594F0:01C95A20] X-Cray-VirusStatus: clean Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk N.M. Maclaren wrote: > The vast bulk of N1761 doesn't help even existing MPI, let alone help MPI to > provide a real Fortran 2003 interface. It is pretty clear that MPI will > continue to say (more-or-less explicitly, as has been done on its mailing > list) "Don't use assumed-shape arrays, because they aren't portable - stick > to explicit-size ones." I.e. don't use Fortran 90 - stick to Fortran 77! > > And how is that relevant to the TR? There seems to be continued confusion on this issue, so I'll repeat it one more time (and hopefully only once more): The vast bulk of the TR has nothing to do with MPI and was never intended to have anything to do with MPI. The original mandate for the TR, passed by WG5, is not about MPI. Cheers, Bill -- Bill Long longb@cray.com Fortran Technical Support & voice: 651-605-9024 Bioinformatics Software Development fax: 651-605-9142 Cray Inc., 1340 Mendota Heights Rd., Mendota Heights, MN, 55120