From owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Mon Sep 13 16:25:08 2004 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc22wg5-domo Delivered-To: sc22wg5-domo@ghz.klid.dk Received: by ghz.klid.dk (Postfix, from userid 521) id E2AA837648; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:25:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Delivered-To: sc22wg5@open-std.org Received: from dkuug.dk (ptah.dkuug.dk [195.215.30.66]) by ghz.klid.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EF637646 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from balin.rl.ac.uk (balin.rl.ac.uk [130.246.135.155]) by dkuug.dk (8.12.10/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i8DEN1jH039163 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:23:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from j.k.reid@rl.ac.uk) X-RAL-MFrom: X-RAL-Connect: Received: from jkr.cse.rl.ac.uk (jkr.cse.rl.ac.uk [130.246.9.202]) by balin.rl.ac.uk (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i8DDkHrF012076; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:46:18 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jkr.cse.rl.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i8DDji87028992; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:45:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4145A488.5000109@rl.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:45:44 +0100 From: John Reid Reply-To: j.k.reid@rl.ac.uk Organization: Rutherford Appleton Laboratory User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sc22wg5@dkuug.dk Subject: Re: (j3.2004) Resolutions from SC22 plenary meeting References: <200409091804.i89I4Q2E029101@math.jpl.nasa.gov> In-Reply-To: <200409091804.i89I4Q2E029101@math.jpl.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-Spam-Score: 0 () Sender: owner-sc22wg5@open-std.org Precedence: bulk Van.Snyder@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: > SC22 met last week to discuss several issues. The resolutions are > attached. Of particular interest to the Fortran community is Resolution > 04-04: Rapid Final Processing of Standards: > > ISO has made it clear that time is of the essence in standards > development and SC22 has made every effort to expedite its work. In > this context, it finds the delay in starting the DIS ballot for ISO/IEC > 1539-1, Fortran 2003, unacceptable. The document was submitted to ITTF > by the SC 22 Secretariat on 17 May 2004, but the ballot did not commence > until 12 July 2004. > > Any delay in starting a ballot or in publishing the resulting document is > undesirable and very discouraging to any WG that has done its work in a > timely manner. SC 22 instructs its Chair to raise this matter at the JTC1 > plenary. Yes, this is a resolution that I wrote and of course it is dear to our hearts. There was a lot of sympathy from others with our position and I was expressly asked by the Linux person to add the second paragraph. We clearly need this too. > Resolution 04-09, which I will not quote here, is interesting. It notes > that "JTC 1/SC 22 appreciates JTC 1's support for making standards freely > available on the web," but "is concerned that the mechanism for obtaining > electronic versions of such standards free of charge is hidden from the > public at large...." This was refering to things like extended bnf that are never going to make a lot of money for ISO. I have not tried to get our standards into this category. > Resolution 04-21, which I will not quote here, is interesting. It disbands > SC22/WG20. This does not, unfortunately, guarantee that the goofiest of > their demands will go away. WF20's responsibilities have been assigned to > SC22, with the creation of an Internationalization Rapporteur Group. I am not sure what 'goofy' demands you have in mind, but WG20 was disfunctional and this gives the chance for a fresh start. Cheers, John.